Yup, I Guess I'll Have To Be the Bad Guy...

When your right your right

 

On another note I would like to move to mars not because of trump but because it's a childhood dream of mine plus it would be so cool

 

Black people have not 'thrived' amidst poverty, AIDS, police brutality, etc. they have suffered because of it. Black people are going backwards when it comes to wealth accumulation, and the gap between average white household wealth and black household wealth is huge, and increasing. Hispanics are doing better at closing that gap than whites. Whether you want to admit it or not, black people and the fractured black community are in a crisis compared to whites. And about the time non-hispanic whites are dropping below 50 percent of the population, blacks will be dropping to fourth place in population..after whites, hispanics, and Asians(Asians are growing 2.5 times faster than blacks, and are nearly half of what the black population is now).

And all those things you mentioned(the stuff going on now, not the stuff of the past)yeah they exist, but they can get worse. Will it be worse than it was 60 years ago? Probably not. Can it get worse than it is now? Hell yes.

Sane black people have every reason to be worried..not that they are going back to the plantations, but that things can or will get significantly worse for black people, compared to where black people are now.

People need to wring their hands and wail and all now and get it out of their systems --so they can prepare to fight for their rights and communities for the next four years.

JMHO let the attacks begin.

 

That leslie knope gif ...man I miss Parks & Rec.

 

The eyeroll GIF!!!!!!

 

Well if it is worse, it will get worse! ok? That was the point fool! All of those things you pointed out can and probably will GET WORSE-more bad than they are now! You think that is as bad as it can get? With white supremacists thinking they got the green light? Such ignorance!

If you think Trump cannot be any worse than Bill Clinton you are a damn fool.

 

@ColumbusGuy still trying to tell black folk how to see the black experience through white liberal colored glasses. Ain't nothing changed in my absence lol. Sorry, this is a rude awakening for you all and Ms. Never-gonna-be-president-pantsuit. As another black blogger put it
This is why all your Black friends aren’t as upset... | SLTA___

@Fanon thank you. It's hard being idiosyncratic when their is so much collectivism and groupthink. If nothing else, this will force younger ones to experience a little pain and grow up. Adulation of Obama's worthless ass got black people absolutely zilch. Black folk can't seem to understand that just because you don't carry the water for Honolulu Slim, that doesn't mean you support the GOP, Alt-right, etc. the enemy of my enemy ain't necessarily my friend. After awhile I gave up trying to convince black folk to be more critical and intellectual about the weaknesses of Obama and the Dems, just as I didn't carry the Koolaid for the Clintons in the 90s (which DIDNT mean I supported Gingrich).

I hate when white folks get patronizing and try to tell us black folk how to feel, understand and interpret our own experience in the US, especially liberal ones. That's why I put in the screws to the elitist feminist libs in my office. They think we're supposed to be good little handmaidens. The reality is that now, as a black male vet, I'll do better in the govt sector than I would under black male hating feminazis. I'm so glad there is now a generation of young black folk who can simultaneously say FUCK THE DEMS, consider actual left alternatives not as a wasted vote (all you the establishment Negroes went with Hitlery, how wasted was YOUR vote, losers?), and persevere. My father lived long enough to see a black president but without the faults (he died early in the admin).

My mother, who unlike my East Coast dad, was born in Mississippi after Pearl Harbor, lived through segregation and Jim Crow, and told me shit about the Klan and racist white folks that would make a brass monkey cry. Yet is she not sitting at home crying about Trump. Hell nah. She's somewhere at a mall, riding that senior motor scooter and going about her life. She's been through worse than any Gen Xer or Millenial has it now with Herr Trump and she ain't rioting, crying and burning shit down.

 

Another left viewpoint on why this not "Crying Time" for those of us woke:
Freedom Rider: Dump the Democrats for Good | Black Agenda Report

 

I am not telling anyone how to feel. I am just saying that I think things will get more difficult for many groups, including blacks, under Trump and a GOP Congress. I said before it is not going to be like it was 60 years ago, but it will not be better than it is now, it will be worse. That is not telling anyone how to feel. I also think things for women will be worse(Say goodbye to Abortion) and for all gays(gay marriage may be out, gay conversion therapy will be in, etc). These are just observations about what I think will happen-that is not telling anyone what there experience is now or has been, nor is it telling anyone how they should feel. I am not interpreting anything for anyone. I think factual real things will happen that will be adverse for minorities of all kinds. Yes Clinton was a mistake and she made mistakes in her campaign...we need to get over it and get ready to fight and keep the worst from happening(like abortion being made illegal again).

That's all...it ain't that deep really. There is no 'probing of the black psyche and experience'. But for someone who is non white you sure seem to like to do just those things to whites.

The shock and disbelief are over...now we have to figure out what to do. Any suggestions Mr. Know-it-all?

 

Oh please, Drama King, Trump is ALREADY turning into Mr. lobbyist-graft-and-business-as-usual:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/u...s-now-theyre-on-his-transition-team.html?_r=0

I just had the same conversation with a friend of mine that's a therapist who works with youth. His millennial clients are beside themselves, chiefly because they grew up under the white liberal illusions of Obama-nation. Whereas brothers his and my age are like, meh, situation normal, shitty as usual. Lol.

The Supreme Court is NOT overturning DOMA. There's a little concept in Federal SCOTUS law called stare decisis. I'm pretty sure Roe v Wade and DOMA are safe. Hell, even the Rehnquist and Roberts Courts drastically limited but DID NOT overturn affirmative action and sexual harassment precedents and decisions.

Maybe your boy, Honolulu Slim should have built real coalitions instead of phony, Executive Order based fiats. The only thing that changes for gays substantially is that Trump can overturn sexual orientation protections for government CONTRACTORS (NOT actual Federal employees). That's one EO that, being a NY populist like Giuliani and having CONSERVATIVE gay supporters like Thiel, he'll probably leave alone (unless the religious right makes a big stink, then he can go Barry Goldwater,---a conservative I couldn't definitely live with as a black man---on their asses).

At least now, Black folk (thanks to Millennials) won't be so damned ready to give up the drawers for liberal elites and Dems.

 

And here I was 'missing' Rico and he suddenly appears and drags me... lol. Be careful about what you wish for!



'Drama King'...wtf? lol.



Well regarding Trump...one this is...we are gonna find out. He is here. He is going to be president for four years(at least) so we will see...I hope you are right @Rico .

 

Yep, I reappeared...like Candyman lol. You know you like having a sparring partner. Every Cosell needs an Ali



Look whatever we say here, any of us,
whether pro-Hillary, whatever, there's only one eternal truth in all this with EVERY SINGLE president and David Brinkley stated it 20 years ago

FOUR MORE YEARS OF GODDAMNED NONSENSE

 

What is occurring?

 

You are wrong for this...lol.

 

Well you can have your opinions about what you consider unwarranted or not, but as far as Nick and Ocky allow it, I will speak my mind. And of course you can object (and I did laugh at that gif I admit) which is ok too... I will at least consider and think about anything you post as I respect your intelligence and opinion, and yeah, I will continue to also evaluate if and when something is just not appropriate for my commentary. And there have been things posted which I felt were just not appropriate for any commentary from me.

*If you do not want me to comment on your threads in general or on any particular thread that you make, let me know and I will respect your decision.

 

really? smh

 

I think that like any political evolution there will be certain levels of anxiety. I do think that we should be concerned. There is a global movement in the rise of nationalist politics around the world. I honestly think that things can get worse from the perspective of where we are right now in human history. I honestly believe that specific groups will be harmed (i.e., mostly legal and structural but also physical) in Donald's America.

I think that as Black Americans we should be vigilant about what's to come and stand our ground to hold on the what has been achieved in the last 60 years. I also think that Younger Black Americans need to carve out our own political identity. I actually think this applies to progressives and young liberals. The Democrat and Republicans parties are operating from a 20th-century agenda in the 21st Century.

 

Well since you quoted my post you are going to have to come out and say what you mean, ok? If you don't want me to post in your threads or reply to your posts then do not beat around the bush, come out and say it and own it. Thanks.

I also as I have said 'stayed out' of certain conversations, but that is my choice and if someone disagrees with my participation then they need to come out and say it. I can't ask 'can I participate in this thread?' whenever I post, so if someone (like you)is having a problem with my decisions then come out and say it forthrightly and I will simply not participate in your threads or respond to your comments. It is either one way or the other-I am not going to 'ask permission' each time I post in your threads your respond to your comments.

*If by leaving a disclaimer you mean you are going to say 'no whites need reply in this thread' when you not I feel it is not appropriate to respond, then I will simply not respond to any of your posts or comments. Ok?

A person is either welcomed, or they are not. It cannot be conditional in my opinion. If they are welcomed, then that is basically an acknowledgement that the decisions they make about posting are generally respected. I am either welcome to post in your threads and respond to your comments, or I am not. One or the other.

 

It's a forum, of course everyone's opinion is welcomed. One thing I hate about the Internet is that conversations get flattened. I think a lot of our words, without tone, nuance, inflection come off differently online than we would appear in face to face.

For example, your and my conversations lol

My online presence comes off like


Face to face I'm all like


Ok I'm not gonna lie, I do feel Travis Bickle-ish to attorneys and patronizing white liberals. Everybody else is a star...

 

That is not an answer... is that what your disclaimer means? I need more info from you to make any decision.

 

I understand where you're coming from with your reaction in reference with these ridiculous claims about people moving off of planet earth-- mainly spoken by those can't even afford to move out of their mothers' house-- but I think the underlying issue with people of color is the sheer disappointment in the nation as a whole. I don't think that most people are disappointed because we have a white president. That is nothing new. I think people forget that Obama was our first president. For most people born in the last decade, they ONLY know of a black president being in office-- which I think is pretty cool. However, I think the underlying issue with those of minority status in this country is the fact that in the past 8 years, to have come SO FAR FORWARD, and to have made so much political, economic, racial and all other types of progress -- just as a MINDSET-- with this administration alone, it seems that we are being pushed SO FAR BACKWARDS after the past 8 years. I can think of so much more to call it, but it's disappointing to say the absolute least.

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