Where Do You Stroll The Ave? Is It Safe?

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  1. Nick Delmacy

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    How many of you all check the main site or the forums at work? Do you worry about NSFW photos (or even just shirtless menz and pics of men kissing)?

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    I'm exploring the idea of making Cypher Avenue After Dark a permanent home somewhere, maybe a separate section or even a sub-domain. A place for "adult" discussions/imagery, explicit NSFW articles and maybe even just Thirst Trappy male appreciation posts. The Locker Room was supposed to be that but the exclusivity of that space def limited the participation.

    However, I don't want to shun any of the regulars away who feel that that this is one of the only gay spaces they can view at work or in general.

    As much as we've pushed back on the soft porn web series and keeping porn and explicit photos off of the site, we've come to realize that a lot of you just go elsewhere to see/discuss this stuff. Present company included.

    Recently I revealed that I have a huge porn collection and Ocky has discussed in podcasts that he used to sell bootleged porn in the past. So we're def not snowflakes with sensitive sensibilities. Our goal in the beginning was to not make yet another smutty site like every other gay space...but times are changing and when in Rome, you do as the Romans do...We like men and the male body just as much as every other gay man on the Interwebs sharing NSFW content.

    If this is something you guys feel is either not needed or would tarnish the overall vibe/integrity of the site, definitely let me know.

    I have no desire for the entire site to become the train-wrecks that are BGCLive (NSFW) or even Aazah (NSFW) ...but I'm not (totally) against having a separate "champagne room" area for Black Gay Men like King Magazine has for Black Straight Men.

    Let's discuss. Tell us what you think even if you think it will go against the grain of everyone else.

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    First of all CA afterdark is mine. Also, It was only a problem for me when rhe body issue pics covered the home screen
     
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    I think a separate path or sub domain would be fine.

    I use the site at work on my phone and usually just quickly scroll down questionable stuff. Some of the guys I follow on IG definitely push the edges onto NSFW territory though. So I'm quick with the scroll and app task switch lol
     
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    I don't think it would hurt - there definitely have been moments when I've visited the site while in public and first thing that popped up was baawddy. Quickly had to tab out lmao
     
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    I do not open the site at work, however I do think Cypher Avenue After Dark needs to be improved on. A separate section will be good. I would like to be able to come to the site, read some intellectual stuff, shoot the shit and then be able to get some eye candy, or read about someones raunchy hookup or a good porn link. It should be in a separate section so the site does not become NSFW.
     
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    I'm here for Whore Avenue.

    But no, seriously, I think it might work as a sub-domain. As long as the main forum stays active, I don't think it'll become Aazah or BGC. There's really only a few of us who are heavily active, anyway.

    Then again, *the main forum would have to stay active*
     
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    Yeah I'm also wondering if opening the flood gates to more than just intellectual PG-13 discussions will lead to more members becoming active. Clearly "the community" is explicit in general, so fighting it may have been counter-productive...unnecessary sexual innuendoes seem to naturally flow from even the most respectable gay men's lips, being NSFW is in our DNA.



    No matter how much of a "high road" we've been on, 98% of the White gay sites out there are NSFW. Yet the continue to thrive despite Caucasian (and Asian, lets be real) readers having to sneak scroll past the raunchier content.
     
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    Unfortunately, I no longer pull up the site at work. Not that the main page has smut or anything, but it is possible for a torso or something questionable to pop up. I have my own office so this isn't much of an issue. The main reason for me not viewing it at work is because i'm sure that everything is monitored by our IT or security. Even though the main site is free of smut, I can only think of what would happen if someone pulled up the site and saw even the NSFW links. Because of my position, I can't risk that.

    Otherwise, I don't have a problem with there being a separate domain. Even though i like my smut like the average male, I do appreciate the fact that it's not thrown in my face every time I visit the site.

    Another key point is that I will, sometimes, pull up the site on my phone or at home to show a friend an article and I feel safe in knowing that i won't be diverted to porn without going intentionally. It's like having a fire stick with porn apps and having it on the main page. Kinda embarrassing if you want to just find a nice show for mom and all she sees is a shiny peen or glazed booty hole in the corner. Definitely keep the two separate or it may be a site that i have to sneak and read in the darkness of my bedroom with the door closed.
     
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    Yeah, I’m of the mind with others that you should do it as a separate brand and domain. I kind of do that with my design work. I use my “real name” for any thing family or kid oriented and use a “pen name” for edgy/controversial stuff. I have two separate domains.

    Or if you go the sub root route, I always liked how these sites managed to mix good articles, NSFW and eye candy pics on the classy side.
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    http://ka-os.blogspot.com
     
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    I just caught @Nick Delmacy shade by linking to one of my post in the body of his article. Just messy. LOL

    Seriously, is this being considered just for the sake of attracting more members or enticing current members to be more active? If so, i have mixed feelings about it. I didn't consider it taking the "high road" by not including raunchy material on the main site. I do think it is what separated CA from every other Black Gay blog. I was under the impression that CA After Dark was the compromise. Maybe it was limited in its effect due to the number of people who could participate.

    On a positive side, maybe more people would join or participate more if there was X-Rated material. Membership is the lifeline of any blog and CA is no different. Page clicks would definitely go up.

    Downside: Woe be the moderators(Nick & Ocky) that will be tasked with policing an influx of sex-obsessed new members. Anyone joining just to post and discuss sex related topics will, most likely, only want to discuss those things. My concern is that if successful, this will totally overrun active members, who don't mind discussing sex, but also have other interests as well. Those that are active now seem to have diverse interests which is what I like. We can discuss politics, TV, Music and Video games but then discuss thirst traps at the same time. The beauty of it is that it's not all about sex even though we all talk about it.

    Also, another part of me cringes at the thought of CA caving to what's popular in the gay blogosphere. I can't help but think of the many discussions we've had on here regarding the gay community using sex to sell everything from music, web series, gay prides, etc. Heck, i remember suggesting Frank Ocean show more skin to boost album sales and someone, who i shall not name, was not keen on that at all even though it's what artists have done for years.

    I will say that I will support CA because I trust the founders to do what's best for their business and their loyal members. CA is one of two sites that I've followed in the past 10 years i would say. Even though the site has evolved since i first became active(2012), i feel that it's always kept it's uniqueness and quirkiness and stayed close to the original vision. I can understand the dilemma and desire to grow the membership base. Just be cognizant of the type of members that you may attract. All customers aren't good customers.

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    While I get "it"....and believe me I do (because I feel the same way); its sucks that mainstream (non-gay) sites can show skin and flesh all day long but when that same skin and flesh is shown on a gay site, we're looking over our shoulders in the work place.

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    ESPN Body Issue is mainstream news and the images are everywhere when they drop...but on CA its NSFW?
     
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    @Nick Delmacy and @OckyDub I'm all for making Cypher Avenue After Dark a sub-domain for the "smut". We're men and visual and there's a market to cater to that segment. Great to acknowledge that there's a gold standard of integrity on the main site , however, in this case separate but equal would be the sensible exception.
     
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    Yeah this idea is def not based on trying to get more people active and attracting more members (although that would be a nice side effect). It mainly comes from my own desires to post and discuss smut in addition to posting and discussing the intellectual stuff.

    I don't visit any other "gay space" except this one (unless I'm sent links to them directly or they pop up on my feed reader) so it would be nice to also have a place here to discuss more primal urges/interests. Between Ocky and myself, he's def the one to more openly discuss sexuality but I'm more the one that likes to show that sexuality. I've had far more Thirst Trap and Porn Star related posts and threads both on the main site and the Boards. I say all that to say: We both like discussing and seeing sexuality in explicit ways, as do many others. Since this is my only gay outlet, it would be nice if there was an area where we all could post that stuff and not risk scaring off members who are more sensitive about that kind of stuff.

    Based on the feedback here so far, it looks like the sub-domain is the way to go.
     
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    The reality check came for me when years ago we got flagged by Google Ads for posting that "At Home With John Legend" Funny or Die Video on our site where he's naked the whole time. Yet every other mainstream blog had the same video with zero repercussions.

    Flesh on "Mainstream Sites" = Normal

    Flesh on Gay Sites = NSFW
     
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    Had nothing to do with the site. But it was a huge thumbnail of a big naked dude with a football. Anyone walking by would just see a big naked dude with no context.
     
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    LOL What does this comment have to do with what I said? LOL
     
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    Seemed to me you were saying if that same pic would have been on a striaght site it wouldnt have been a provkem. Thats not true
     
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    @hannibal OK, I guess the frustration comes from the fact that those same images on mainstream sites, there’s less stigma of it being pornographic. That picture you’re talking about came from ESPN, a company owned by Disney.
     
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    Yeah those examples are very NSFW...

    A balance may be to do a subdomain AND have maybe explicit photos be shown "after the break," so to speak. So on the main sub-domain page you don't see full on nudity, but if you click the full article links you may see NSFW images galore. I think that's how the Rod 2.0 dude used to do it on his old site.
     
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    I think that those of us who been here a while can deal with a butt shot or peen and it not degrade down to "yyyyaaasssss!! Trade can git dis boodee" for every comment.

    I'm really more concerned with obtrusive ads that feature flesh and explicit stuff than the content here. If things are based on what the Locker Room is then I think that's fine. Some sites have photos of dick in the booty like right up front and center and that's definitely not work safe.
     
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    Wow, I forgot about Rod 2.0. That was a good site until he found mainstream success then he dropped it like bad habit.

    Curious about NSFW: are there folks looking at non work stuff on their work PCs (rhetorical, don’t answer!)? With iphones/Android, I never do any non work stuff on a work computer, guess that’s why I don’t really think about NSFW (but I don’t look at certain sites on my personal phone even during work hours).

    Maybe also one of those splash screens that says you must be 18 or 21 to enter based on your jurisdiction. We’re living in the age of the Keebler Nazi Sessions, so looking out for your interests and any potential challenges.
     
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    Once you start putting up that "18 or older" Splash screen you've definitely hit porn site territory, lol

     
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    To be honest, I've seen more gay porn on "mainstream" Twitter and Tumblr than actual gay porn sites.

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    Just venting / asking..

    Are we thinking, saying, pondering....that flesh on mainstream sites is somehow "cleaner" more acceptable but those same images when they appear on a gay site now are dirty or NSFW?

    What are we saying about us personally and our sexuality?

    Two men hugging or kissing on Huff Post = Love is love empowerment and equality.

    On a black gay website = :holeup::picard:
     
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    @OckyDub NSFW is subjective in the workplace but I get your point. Some workplaces you can be reprimanded for sexual harassment with even the hetero ESPN Body Issue lying around if some fuddy duddy gets their panties in a wad, let alone Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue or Out, DNA, or other mags. That’s why I wondered if people still access sites on work PCs. With my own phone or tablet they have no idea what I’m looking at, it just becomes a matter of using personal vs company time.

    If I was partnered like you, then yeah, I’d be radical in the office. All the snowflake Beckys I work with proudly display their wedding pics in their offices with them open mouth kissing their grooms. If I was like you, I’d have a pic of me kissing my dude and DARE some mofo to open their mouth (please, go ahead, I could use the lawsuit money)...
     
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    Not what i'm saying at all. In my opinion, certain images are NSFW no matter what site they are on. It just depends on where people are when viewing the pictures. For instance, the ESPN Body Issue photos could be considered more "artistic" than just flat out smut. The worst you see is a little ass crack. You see no erect penis or insides of vagina. Even so, I don't think it would be acceptable for a straight person to view this photos openly in the workplace even if they were on the ESPN website. I don't think most companies would be tolerant of any employees viewing any sexually suggestive content.

    With that being said, my concern is not showing X-Rated material on this site. I'm not that conservative. Actually, I'm shocked that @Nick Delmacy is even considering doing this. No offense, but I've always felt that Nick was the more uptight one on the site. He had strong disclaimers about no erect penis and such. He even substitutes peen for penis or dick. LOL So I always figured he was just uber conservative and was slightly offended by even a moderate level of obscenity or vulgar language so i'm sorta smiling that he actually wants to discuss smut on this site more openly.
     
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    Yeah that was mainly because we were worried about Google revoking all of the ads from our site... Since then, we’ve decided that we don’t care about their ads much anymore since most of the time they aren’t relevant to our readers and they pay pennies on the dollar for them being on our site in the first place. Thanks to donations from you supporters, we now at least have enough Cypher Bucks to pay for the server space for awhile. So if Google decides to cut us off, fuck em, lol
     
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    I'm loving the new Nick. My reservations are diminishing by the minute. Bring on the smut. LMAO.

    Ohhhh.....And if Google cuts us off, this what you tell em:

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