19-Year-Old Writes: "My Problem As An Extremely Masc Bottom"

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    Stereotypes ruin the party again. One guy says he has a problem keeping men’s attention as a black, “extremely masc” bottom because he doesn’t conform to perceptions of what bottoms should look and act like.

    “I’m the big black muscle guy that looks like a top,” he writes on Reddit. “I’m 19, but I’m beefy as hell, so most people think I’m in my late 20s. I’m also a complete submissive bitch, but most guys don’t expect that out of me. I’m not opposed to topping, but I only like to top guys that I know will be around for a while (like a FWB or a romantic interest). I’ve been told I’m handsome and all of that, but all guys want is the lightweight twink they can throw around. All of my hookups have called me a big dude in a good way, but it seems like it isn’t the dream. Plus I’m black so everybody thinks I’m a top as well.”

    This author would be glad that he is the dream for some men. “How rare of a species is this?” one wrote in a DataLounge forum thread about masc bottoms. “I think I’ve finally found one, and, damn, am I in heaven.”

    “Masculine bottom porn suggestions most welcome,” commented another user.

    On another DataLounge thread, someone asked if masculine guys bottoming is “hot or not.” Responses to that post included “very hot” and “the best.”

    That addresses the perception that masculine men can’t be desired as bottoms, but what about the bias against black men as bottoms? Unfortunately, the Redditor is far from alone, and the fetishization of certain races is yet again to blame. Take this Thought Catalog essay titled “Dear White Gays: Not All Black Guys Are Tops.”

    “I want you to know that when you approach me at the bar or online and you assume I’m a top, or that I’m hung, or that I’m hung and a top, I feel dehumanized,” the author writes. “It feels like you’re reducing me to a thing that can perform a service for you, not like a mutual bond, the way sex should be.

    He concludes: “When you’re a black gay guy, bottoming is a political stance. It’s a small way of saying, I don’t want to play the game of upholding dehumanizing stereotypes and images. I don’t want to confirm media and cultural stereotypes about black ‘virile’ masculinity.”

    ‘Beefy as hell’ 19-year-old has a problem as an ‘extremely masc bottom’
     
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    I'm more creeped out about his age and "beefiness" than him being a masculine bottom. Extremely muscular guys are nice to look at but I've never really been into that body type personally.

    Also, he's 19...regardless of how much older he looks, once he opens up his mouth you'll know he's still a teenager.

    However, 40 year old men like me are not on his radar (and shouldn't be). He's likely trying to date and or hookup with men in his age range, which means a lot of his possible dates are the malnourished Cocodorm looking Black men or the swimmer's build White men seen all over Grindr. Neither of those groups seem like the type that would aggressively pursue a "beefy" and "extremely" masculine bottom.

    So I guess I kinda see where he's coming from...

    But again, he's 19!!! That's still a kid...plenty of time to meet men and have great sex as he gets older.
     
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    So you don't see the irony in him being a big black MASCULINE muscle guy but then describing himself as a complete submissive bitch? Hmmmm, i bet he's lying about being masculine in the first place. I've seen and been with this type before. Dark skinned, mustache and goatee, body builder physique and soon as you start touching the right spot, they start sounding like Jackie Kennedy. This nigga straight up lyin. LOL
     
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    To be honest, you may be right... Here's some NSFW pics of himself that he posted on Tumblr:

    He may be thinking that because he's more masculine than his fem queen besties, that means he's "extremely masculine."

    Either way, not my speed (although I do love masculine bottoms in general).
     
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    Tha hell? So you posted some clickbait pictures of a sexy muscle dude then give us the real pictures of the dude looking like M'onique in the comments section? Now I see what Trump is talking about. Fake News. LOL

    And what is a masculine bottom? I've never heard of or seen such a thing.

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    He described himself as a "big black muscle guy" so I used a photo of an actual "big black muscle guy." LOL

    Its not my fault that he actually looks like Mo'Nique :tears:

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    Masculine bottom. To me the obsession over extra masculine bottoms is from them being dethroned and dominated by the alpha male.

    I'm pretty submissive in a sense but not bitch submissive. I like alpha males but I like to plau fight with them in a sexual stance of dominance to where I'm overpowered or something.

    I dont even really think I can get a long haul out of a passive Top tbh.

    And I was looking at the click bait picture and then saw the Tumblr picture and just..sighed.
     
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    Wow. I'd never thought someone or his kind really existed. Although I can't relate to him being a masc bottom, I do understand his point of view. I'm thinking that when most gays see him, they are automatically going to put the "top" label on him. I think we really do need to be careful how we label someone and out some respeck on their preferences despite them not fitting the stereotype. But since he's only 19...

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    After reading this I'm gonna raise the bullshit flag. I'll concede the point many people except a big muscular masculine black man to be a top. But something here just doesn't add up. From what I've observed muscle gays tend to fuck with other muscle gays so I'm skeptical of this story. Another thing that makes me skeptical is different types of dudes have a niche within the gay world that makes them desirable. Masculine bottoms and muscle bottoms have a pretty strong niche of top and versatile guys checkin for them. One thing I find really amusing is he is surprised white gays dehumanize him. I got news for him. A white is a white top, bottom, gay, straight, bi, or polyambidextroustrangenderdemiqueer. Black people shouldn't be surprised when they try to dehumanize us. That's their default setting which is why I think we should steer clear of them when it comes to dating and sexual relationships. Yes, there bus loads of white bottoms looking to fulfill their BBC, Mandingo, savage darkie fantasy on the flip side of that there white tops who want to fulfill their docile, sub, plantation n****r fantasy. If he thinks being a bottom is some kind of "revolutionary act." He needs to stop and reevaluate his life.
     
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    His pictures from Tumblr are not hot at alllllllllll. He’s fat. he’s not beefy. he’s not muscular. He’s fat. That’s the problem.
     
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    Complete trolling BS...

    1. I suspect he's only into white dudes.
    2. I've encountered countless masculine vers-bottoms....but I'm over 40.
    3. No masculine man is gonna refer to himself as a bitch.
    4. Um a large portion of porn I view has masculine vers-bottoms. Sorry but I don't see them as unicorns.
     
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    The whole position thing in general wears me out. Cant believe its still such a thing, however, I respect those who are strict about what they like. No judgement, its their choice.

    As a complete vers dude (literally I like both positions completely equally) my take is when Im interested in a guy I can also pretty much surmise what position I would like out of him. I guess that is the luxury of being fully vers. I have been in situationships with both a "full top" as well as "full bottom". However, my ideal is someone like myself (full vers) or if he leans more towards one, he's open to do the other position every special occasion I guess.

    But as far as the topic the guy is suggesting, I'm definitely one of the dudes he's talking about.

    You would get ZERO play from me being an over muscular masculine bottom or too masculine bttm in general. I mean I don't like fems or twinks per se either, but if your masculine bttm I want to still see a bit a softness in you and DEFINITELY not an over muscled body. Tae the Doug for example is a great bttm/vers IMO. He's not fem, yet you can see softness in him. And nice slim frame.

    Could I be playing into stereotypes a bit? Possibly.

    But all in all I love men that give off "fluid" position vibes. Not overly muscled, but not skinny size zero. Naturally masculine with a bit of softness. Using a celebrity as an example, Trey Songz comes to mind. If he was gay, I could imagine him both fucking the shit out of a dude and getting fuck the shit out of. And I would do BOTH with him. :diddydatazz:
     
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    Just got home and was able to click on that NSFW pic.

    :ashley:

    Nobody and I mean nobody will look at this and think dude is a masculine anything.
     
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    I'm trying to body shame people less so.... I'm not gone say anything other than the comparison to MoNique has me dying. :D

    Now....'beefy' is a broad terms. Beefy could be What we see in the NSFW photo or it could be a thick rugby player dude. I would say I'm beefy. But I look 20-30 lbs lighter than what I actually am when I hit the scale. I'm dense. So I think he got people imagining some big swole up 210 5 11 dude when.... that's not it.

    There's definitely a bunch of masc muscle bots out there. They are not exactly rare. The 90s black gay porn circle was full of them. So I think it's fair to extrapolate that there are many IRL. I've run across a bunch of them. They are not for me. Maybe as a one off, one night deal but I'm very verse and if you toot it up, I'll toot it up back. I'm a sexual guy even if I don't have a lot of sex. I just can't deny good sexual chemistry.
     
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