21 of 21 white NFL players plan to vote for Trump

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    Six months ago, Rex Ryan stood before a roaring crowd in Buffalo and gave a pep talk. This was not an unfamiliar scene for the Bills head coach, except for maybe the suit and tie. Well, that and the subject of his four-minute speech: Donald J. Trump.

    “There’s so many things I admire about Mr. Trump, but one thing I really admire about him is—you know what—he’ll say what’s on his mind,” Ryan said. “And so many times, you’ll see people—a lot of people—want to say the same thing. But there’s a big difference: They don’t have the courage to say it. They all think it, but they don’t have the courage to say it. And Donald Trump certainly has the courage to say it.”

    Back in the Bills locker room, however, Ryan’s staff was less impressed with the Republican candidate for president—and that their boss was backing him. A Bills player said when he learned Ryan had spoken at Trump’s rally, he simply couldn’t believe it. “Rex is such an open-minded guy, a really good person,” said the player, who asked not to be identified, fearing repercussions from the Bills. “But the fact he could back someone as closed-minded as Trump genuinely shocked me.”

    The player, who is black, emphasized that teammates’ frustration with their coach’s public endorsement was not universal. But in private discussions, he said, “Some of the African-American players on the team weren’t happy about Rex doing that.”

    Indeed, said another black player on the Bills who requested anonymity to speak freely about tensions swirling with a combination of protests led by Colin Kaepernick and a combustible candidate: “I see Trump as someone who is hostile to people of color, and the fact that Rex supports him made me look at him completely differently, and not in a positive way.”

    Ryan declined to comment, but at least one white Buffalo player—Richie Incognito, the offensive lineman notorious for a bullying scandal that included racial slurs and who has now become a force in the Bills clubhouse—insists that Trump’s winning message has resonated with NFL players like him.

    “I think that he can help this nation get back to a world superpower,” Incognito told B/R's Tyler Dunne. “Where I think he could help is putting us first again and having that—it's my mentality, too—having that tough attitude where you put America first and everyone's thinking we're the greatest nation in the world. Don't mess with America. That toughness is where I identify with him.”

    Interviews by B/R Mag with dozens of NFL players about Trump over the past four months reveal that scenes of a divided America sparked by the candidate have been replicated inside at least a half-dozen locker rooms of its most popular sport. Some players cite low-level confrontations. Others say friendships have ended. Many see a toughness that could cross political boundaries and a business acumen that’s attractive to the likes of Tom Brady, only for the candidate’s racial bluster to spark more outrage. At least one coach has insisted there be no more player discussions of Trump—not a ban on politics in general, just Trump—while on team property.

    Four weeks into the NFL season and four weeks from Election Day, amid an increasingly politicized league confronting on-field protests every Sunday, a straw poll of 43 players by B/R Mag shows:

    • 20 of 22 black NFL players plan to vote for Hillary Clinton.
    • 2 of 22 black NFL players plan to vote for Donald J. Trump.
    • 21 of 21 white NFL players plan to vote for Trump.
    The informal survey is in no way scientific—there are some 1,600 players in the NFL—but compare those numbers to recent national polling, and the NFL locker room electorate starts to look at lot like America:

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    In a league that is predominantly black, but where anything-goes banter is encouraged and racial lines can be blurred, perhaps the most striking finding in the interviews over the course of the general election is what’s been left unsaid. “Black guys will talk about it to each other,” ESPN analyst and two-time Super Bowl champion Damien Woody said of Trump. “White guys may talk about it to each other. But I think white players will tap around it with black players.

    “The locker room normally isn’t politically correct,” Woody said. “I know from talking to players things are different when it comes to Trump.”

    Woody explained that white players were hesitant to talk about Trump because “a white player may parrot something Trump says, and the black player may think, ‘Oh, that’s how you feel?’ And it could cause problems.”

    Those problems are already unfolding across the NFL. In mid-May, as Trump became the presumptive nominee, two NFC teammates—a right-leaning offensive lineman and a left-leaning linebacker—began to re-examine their friendship because of Trump.

    They had known each other for four years. Their wives talked on occasion. Their kids sometimes played together. They sat next to each other in team meetings and went to dinner several times per month. They often joked that politics were off-limits because of their disparate viewpoints. Then, after their first offseason team workout in May, the lineman revealed he would be voting for Trump—and everything changed.

    The linebacker, a Clinton supporter, began finding excuses for not going to dinner. The families stopped talking. When the lineman confronted his now former friend, he recalls receiving a blunt response:I can’t be friends with anyone who would vote for Donald Trump. I’m sorry.

    It might surprise you, with dozens of players following Kaepernick’s lead in silent protest against the national anthem, but many NFL teams lean conservative. At least 40 to 50 percent of the league, by some players’ estimates, believes Republicans do more to eradicate higher taxes, thus protecting more of their earnings.

    Trump has supporters in NFL locker rooms for the same reasons he does outside them: Many players said they appreciated his blunt talk and supported his promises to decimate terrorists, build walls and strengthen the economy.

    Trump, a sports fan, has courted athlete endorsements and bragged about friendships with everyone from Bobby Knight to Dennis Rodman. He understands the power of a football audience enough to complain that this Sunday’s debate would conflict with the Giants-Packers game. When Trump couldn’t get supporter Mike Ditka to speak at the Republican National Convention in July, he asked former quarterback Fran Tarkenton instead.

    Then there are the New England Patriots: Trump is friends with owner Robert Kraft, got former Pats defensive lineman Fred Smerlas to help raise money in August and counted Matt Light among attendees at a Massachusetts fundraiser on the same swing. And of course there is the quarterback, Trump’s golfing partner who kept a MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN hat in his locker and whose support the candidate credits with making “an incredible difference” in a primary victory. “Tom Brady is a great friend of mine,” Trump told the New York Times. “He's a winner and he likes winners.”

    But even as NFL stars have spoken out about their reasons for kneeling or holding up a fist during the “The Star-Spangled Banner” this season, the election has yet to spill out freely into public: Every player interviewed—other than Incognito—requested anonymity to speak openly about partisan politics, citing fear of repercussions from the league, coaches, teammates and even Trump supporters on social media.

    It’s not that pro athletes don’t talk politics, these players say—it’s just that Trump is, as several NFL starters joked in interviews with B/R Mag, the most divisive figure in the league not named Roger Goodell.

    Clinton can, of course, be divisive herself, but players say something is different when it comes to Trump. And that something, both black and white players agreed, is often the way the candidate has confronted race.

    Black players who might otherwise back a more conservative candidate said they have abandoned Trump because they view him as anti-black. Multiple players cited Trump’s embrace of so-called birtherism—the lie that President Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen—as one of several reasons they dislike Trump.

    “A lot of black players believe saying the first black president isn’t really American is racist as f--k,” one player told B/R Mag.

    Recalled another black player: “I was talking Trump and Hillary with a white teammate, and the conversation was fine. Things got a little heated when he said, ‘Trump isn’t racist.’ I don’t know how anyone doesn’t see how that’s just not true. We talked about that statement for two days.

    “We were taking a break during practice maybe four days or so after our last conversation about Trump,” the player continued. “He came up to me and said, ‘Here’s why Trump’s not racist and Hillary is.’ Then we argued for another day. It was sort of heated again.”

    For the most part, though, NFL players have attempted to rise above the divisiveness of the campaign, however divided their workplace environment might already have become. One starting offensive lineman said he and his teammates “discuss politics every day. We couldn’t be more different and are good friends and joke about all of it.”

    “That’s an issue with this country,” said the lineman, who said he planned to vote for Trump. “We can’t have conversations anymore. We are too sensitive. It’s OK to disagree about things.”

    Donald Trump Is Tearing the NFL Apart
     
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    I'm genuinely surprised there wasn't one white player in the straw poll that supports Clinton.
     
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    Why though not to stereotype but I kinda figured white guys in the NFL would be more pro Trump then Clinton simply by well stereotype
     
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    Same here. I know it's not ALL white NFL players, probably not even the majority but, I picture them as "Not-So-Smart, Corn Fed, Midwestern Horse Wrangler, Christian Conservative farmhands that dress only in blue jeans, blue flannel, and Cowboy boots in the off season"...the ideal Trump Supporter. LOL
     
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    my thinking was more along the lines of people that never had to face the type of discrimination that minorities do but sure yours work
     
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