About Him Teaser 2 "Damien's Got It Bad"

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    ...because you know, this is ALL that being black and homo/bisexual is about. It seems we are coming up on close to at least 20 black gay web series/reality series (if not more) and we still here? Is this the limit of black gay creativity?
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    Matters of love seem to be at the forefront of most people's minds. It makes sense that a community seeking positive examples of romance regularly focuses upon it. And creators often cater to the largest potential audience and write what they know, and lots of people like and are familiar with relationship drama. A few sexy actors and potential for love scenes is enough to get a fair amount of attention.

    Maybe as black homosexuality becomes more visible and content creators emerge with more diverse sets of experiences, anecdotes and ideas, other topics will be covered or familiar ideas will be approached from more unique angles. Even then, complicated relationships involving somewhat shallow characters will likely remain the norm. Many like seeing aspirational stories or ones that remind them of their lives. Romance, something everyone knows and often spends some time thinking about, is the lowest common denominator in a way. Maybe romance is to web series as comic book blockbusters are to the box office, a genre with stories that can be written via reliable formulas and often guarantees a sizable audience, with the exception of a much lower barrier to entry (less money and technology required).

    Female-created and targeted web series often cover similar bases. Only exception I can immediately think of is Awkward Black Girl, which spends plenty of time on romance while featuring just as much, if not more, workplace and slice-of-life humor. It's familiar--a romantic comedy featuring a goofy best friend, wacky coworkers, and multiple suitors (of, *gasp*, multiple races)--but comes from the point of view of a black woman with a slightly different voice and broader scope than many of her peers. Web series creators that stand out from the rest are few and far between.

    Gay media makers, in general, overwhelmingly focus on heightened relationship drama and coming out/coming-of-age stories. Even the occasional better films like Pariah or Weekend often look at similar ideas with better dialogue and plotting, and they're vastly outnumbered by bad direct-to-DVD romantic comedies and mediocre dramas. There's more variety but it's often not very good. Lists of gay movies sometimes look like cinematic wastelands, something often said about the state of mainstream cinema.

    About Him looks like it may have decent production values, at least.
     
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    I might have found this more interesting 15 years ago. But this seems to me to be well worn territory. I agree with @ockydub is this the limit of black gay creativity? Take away the gay angle there is no story here. I think black gay series and movie producers would be wise to try to tell a good story that is interesting and just let the characters be gay as opposed to making the whole story about gayness.
     
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    You know whats crazy is how when Patrik Ian Polk first released Noah's Arc and the Black SGL community, particularly discreet gay and bisexual men were in uproar about the show not being 100% representative of the life of Black SGL men. Then came D.L. Chronicles, which pointed out the cliche of trying to live a discreet lifestyle in a homophobic society, which some straight black women latched on asserted the "DL" lifestyle depicts Black SGL men as nothing more than closet cases who are HIV/AIDS cases waiting to happen. Now were in the era of films that deals with struggles of Black SGL men finding difficulties accepting themselves such as Pariah, Black Bird, and now "Damien's Got It Bad". I think everyone deserves a voice, granted I know many of us may have came to terms with loving ourselves for who we are and accepting our sexuality for what it is, but there is no need to denigrate or degrade those who want to give a voice to the marginalized few that are dealing with those struggles in life. Especially, those who grow up in homes with devout religious family. I myself can identify with some of the internal struggles the main characters or supporting characters are facing in this web series. Do I always agree with the story line no, but we all have our story of struggles that we're dealing with behind closed doors, or are continuing to deal with on a daily basis.
     
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    Again... is this ALL that being black and homo/bisexual is about?
    If the answer is yes...then I get it but if the answer is no and 98.9% of all black gay web series / reality shows retell the same 3 stories, then that is a problem.

    It means there is no progression and we stay in struggle (coming out and religion) and victim-hood (homophobia and being rejected) while clubbing, throwing shade, being sassy and fierce (because we're to broken to deal with pain so we mask and hide) while looking for a man (a man will fix everything because at least he will love me).

    FOR ME this is lame, lazy and lacks creativity. It's literally the same stories since the 90s. Is this the best the community has to offer? It wouldn't even be so bad IF most of these actors could actually act or if you could hear the dialogue between the characters. Gay creators can barely give us proper audio or visuals and we keep making excuses and not pushing them to help push US along in creative works. We cheer-lead and don't critique as to not offend while saying "at least we got something", I refuse to do that.
     
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    No it's more to the Black SGL community than the norm of DL, shameful living, religious homophobes. We're constantly dealing housing discrimination, under employment or job termination b/c of sexual orientation, homelessness due to families rejecting their loved one b/c of sexual preference, ect.
     
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    I don't mean to derail the conversation but it should be noted that not all homophobes especially those in the black community are religious there are many secular people in the black community who are just as rabidly anti-gay as religious people. Umar Johnson and those Hotep negros are a great example of this phenomenon. We should be careful to recognize the enemy doesn't always hide behind the Bible or Qur'an.
     
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    The trailer was so exciting. On the wall, I think I saw Brandy, TLC, Destiny's Child, Lil Kim, who else? I think I'm gonna make a playlist.
     
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    Another thing I forgot to mention is from what I saw of the trailer is the characters lack specificity. They could've put any three black guys off the street in there and still had the same effect. Also using a very a explicit masturbation scene in a trailer leads me to think the story is so weak that had resort to raunchy sexuality to spark any interest from the potential audience. It looked more like a the beginning of a porngraphic film than a dramatic one.
     
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    The series seems to be laser-focused on attracting views. I happened to see teaser 1 shortly before the thread was posted and it also features half-naked men and a slow jam, plus words like, "You wanted sex...You wanted love," and they posted a link to a Facebook fan page where they do the whole "give us likes and we'll release more teasers" thing. So they're doing the social media shuffle and putting out the type of content that has likely given them their loudest responses. Creators either need to see similar demand for other content or have an innate desire or vision to create something outside of the norm. Maybe they have no desire (or lack the ability) to go outside of the box and are solely aiming to attract the sizable audience that needs little more than sexy men to pique their interest, though they may be unknowingly limiting their audience by not realizing the untapped potential in covering other topics.

     
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    Side note: These actors are :whew::rejoice::lawd: though...props on the casting at the very least!
     
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    The fact that this trailer is trending on myvidster instead of youtube says it all.
     
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    Cmon now. In all fairness, its to be expected that this is the 'go to' lane for (esp) young blk gay content producers. This is an undeniable process that took all of us different routes, lengths of time, n everything else, to come to terms w.

    I get the frustration, but, there's a lot to be said about the fact that no one, since the Gossfields, have gotten the layers n complexity of coming to grips w black gay sexuality (and everything that comes with it) correct since they did it, like, what, 10 years ago?
     
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    I think just like slave stories, woman rights stories, hood stories, cartel stories....gay stories about coming out, being dl, or etc will be told forever.
     
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    Mind u, I dont think I have to point out that I wont be anticipating the premiere, ijs. There is a new generation who is eating this up in lackluster quality and quantity.
     
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    a new generation is eating up power ranges, ninja turtles, and skanky female rappers. this is the fun part when we get to sit in the dark and accept that we're old lol.
     
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    Lol I understand. But I was on FB one day and some dude said "I want to date older men...like between 25-30"

    And I was like...what? me? old? Is everybody over 30 zombies lol
     
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    Only if u buy into it! I have a completely new outlook for 2016, personally. If u know ur lane n operate out of it, you'll be fine
     
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    If you're still in your 30s - early 40s you're not old at all to me. :foxxxy:
     
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    I think 30 is the start of like real true full adulthood.In your 20s there's still some more time to get things together,but your 30s are more so the time when I think things are (or should be) fully formed with you and your life.
     
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    Ima gon head n dap this, but u better not be pullin any of ur famous shade mofo
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    Thats why we didnt invite u to the cookout last week...
     
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    Agreed...and in all fairness I would have to say that most black gay content/story tellers are lazy creatively.
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    "It means there is no progression and we stay in struggle (coming out and religion) and victim-hood "
    Isn't this pretty much the synopsis for all Black American movie content, Gay and Straight (as has been mentioned on here before)? Sports, Dance/ Step, Church/Religion, and "(most times abusive/dysfunctional) relationships. SOMEbody SOMEwhere has gotta step out of the box, dude. I personally would love to see a black director do an awesome ass Sci-Fi or Horror flick. No, NOT with a all black cast. A ethnically well rounded cast where the main protagonist is black or "other" and not stereotypically "hood" like so many black characters are written to be. Hell, even a "Period Piece". Let a black director re-make "Shaka Zulu" into an actual movie. That story is f@#kin amazing. For the "militant" black directors, make a movie talking about the rise of the Benin Empire in West Africa and how the British came in a f#$ked the dog sh!t outta them and stole damn near ALL their art/ sculptures/ etc and stuck it in a museum, then continued f@#kin' them and brainwashin' them into Christianity. Anything but what we've been doing for YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEARRRRS. IJS
     
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    All this right here ^^^^^
     
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    That's the thing... when you know the shits gonna be a dud, just put it on mute/tune out the acting and check out the dudes. :yeshrug:

    lol Nah, not this time, promise. I'm chillin.

    I be hearing about these private chats, meet ups n stuff. Wassup tho? :carl2:
     
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    The same old same narrative kind of turns me off but I've seen some other things I enjoyed from SIGNAL23 so I won't judge until I see it. Storyline is a bit stale to me though.
     
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    we'll said. i read some books or watch certain movies and said...AGAIN? But honestly,
    wait and see. what a marvel idea. ive seen every gay series on youtube, even the white ones. I go in negative...because I'm a mordern day internet user...and walk away sometimes going...you know what, that was okay and that guy has a very nice ass.
     
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    Nah man, @DreG is the ambassador of off site activity, n he admires ur shade level, being a shade vet himself. Im the nice friend, so u can come to the cookout
     
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