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    WARNING: This article contains spoilers for the third episode of American Gods, which premiered Sunday on Starz.
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    While a lot went down for Shadow and Mr. Wednesday in the third episode of Starz’s American Gods, the one scene that’s sure to have tongues wagging is a graphic and groundbreaking sex scene between a mortal and a deity. And this time we’re not talking about Bilquis and her ravenous sexual appetite.

    In adapting Neil Gaiman’s rich fantasy novel, co-creators Bryan Fuller and Michael Green have transformed standalone chapters into world-building vignettes. The “Coming to America” sections have served as cold-open introductions of characters like a blood-thirsty Norse god and the African trickster Mr. Nancy. This week, halfway through “Head Full of Snow,” a “Somewhere in America” vignette introduced the story of Salim and the Jinn, which features a newly immigrated and stressed salesman from Oman who experiences a life-changing encounter with a taxi-driving ifrit (essentially, genie).



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    We’d briefly seen the Jinn (Mousa Kraish) in an earlier episode, his flaming eyes spotted by Shadow as the Middle Eastern god walked away from a conversation with Mr. Wednesday. But in last night’s episode, the Jinn received far more screen time, seducing Salim (Omid Abtahi) in a prolonged and passionate love scene.

    When CBR spoke with Fuller ahead of the premiere, we asked him and co-creator Michael Green about this striking Jinn sequence, and how the conversation about its execution evolved.


    “It really wasn’t much of a conversation,” Fuller said. “When Michael and I first sat down, we decided that the Salim/Jinn story was something that was distinct and groundbreaking in its time, when we read it. And we wanted to give that story a beauty and hypnotic quality that made it hard to ignore. We were adamant about that.”

    Fuller went on to explain how personal experience informed this approach, saying, “As a gay man going to movies — and whether it’s Prelude to a Kiss and Alec Baldwin is having a kiss with a gentleman — and hearing the audience cringe, and boo and hiss, or seeing The Color Purple and the suggestion of a lesbian romance, then hearing the audience cringe, and jeer, was so shocking and bizarre of a reaction to something that is so human and beautiful. So, it was vital for us to make it undeniably beautiful and surreal and lovely and hypnotic, and cinematically represent a transportive sexual experience.”

    Astute readers might remember the scene is a bit different in the book. Fuller explained the changes, saying, “For Salim, a man whose sex life probably consisted of back-alley blowjobs because he grew up in the Middle East where homosexuality is punishable by death and he could get tossed off of a rooftop, it felt like we had an opportunity to tell a deeper story. In the book, it’s another blowjob in a hotel room. For us, we wanted this to be about making love, and giving Salim, a healthy sexual experience that was different than anything he had experienced before. And that’s why he drops to his knees to blow the Jinn, and the Jinn lifts him off of his knees and kisses him tenderly. Because that’s not what Salim is used to. That’s not the life Salim had led. And so part of the wish fulfillment of the Jinn is to grant those who worship him a new life of sorts. And that felt like it was a wonderful opportunity to address some issues that are happening in the world.” Then he added with a smile, “And also have a really crazy sex scene!”

    Green concurred, saying simply, “Gods give back.”

    American Gods airs Sundays at 9 p.m. ET/PT on Starz.

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    so none of yall gonna share ur opinions on it? if u saw it? @Ockydub . i was expecting it to be pornographic, but it was just fucking weird lol. i didnt think the acting was great either. i expected to like the show more than i do. will stick with it tho & see where it goes.
     
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    Haven't watched the show yet. I'm waiting for a couple of more episode to air so I can binge watch.
     
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    *adds "About Gods" to queue after seeing the jerk off video*
     
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    I saw it and the sex scene. I actually liked it. Yes, it was weird but with this show I think thats the point. It seemed so intimate in what you would think sex with a god would be I guess. He entered his complete soul type shit.

    On another note (spoiler) did he cum fire in him? Seems like that would hurt a bit. :heh:
     
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    The show in it self sparks an interesting premise to me. Personally I guess I am definitely a follower of the "New Gods".

    So far we saw Lucille Ball which is the god of media and Techboy which is the god of technology.

    With this laptop on my lap everyday, I guess thats who I worship. I always turn on my computer before I turn on the tv. Sometimes I don't even turn the tv on. But it seems those gods work together, because on my laptop I watch media. I guess the old gods for many people are indeed becoming obsolete. Like the media god said, "we devote our time and attention to worshipping them".

    It'll be interesting to see if Jesus Christ come in with his two cents soon.
     
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    What are you watching it on? Is it streaming online somewhere?
     
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    Oh...so you just not gonna tell me what online venue you plan to watch it on, huh? LOL
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    sounds kinky
     
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    some people watching boootlleggggggg lol . good show though. With the book also a good read . As for the scene , it didnt come across as overtly erotic more like an average joe, every day sex which is surprising given the context. It was well done actually.
     
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    Okay, I finally finished the book last night and decided to watch the show up until this episode. I do applaud them for showing two middle-eastern men be intimate, but other than that, I was kinda irked by the changes.

    All the reviews are talking about how explicit and beautiful it was. I get it. Dude cums fire into the other dude. Okay. Maybe gay porn and my knowledge of other gay tv shows has spoiled me, but I wasn't as impressed as I thought I'd be.

    What irked me most about the scene is that they felt they HAD to change it from an oral sex scene to an anal sex scene. The writers claim that it was because they felt like it needed to be more "intimate" and not feel like a one night stand. I disagree. They make it seem as if only penetrative sex can be intimate. And how oral sex is just seen as either foreplay or a quick and dirty thing. Straight folks think that and because of the whole top bottom bullshit in the gay community, so do a lot of gay men. I feel like it could have stayed an oral sex scene. and still been intimate. Taking another man into your mouth, is intimate. But naw, they want to normalize ass pounding as the only "real sex" between men.

    Read the original description from the novel:

    "It is an hour or more before the ifrit comes, thrusting and grinding into Salim's mouth. Salim has already come twice in this time. The jinn's semen tastes strange, fiery, and it burns Salim's throat."

    "Salim climbs into the bed beside him, cuddles close to the ifrit, imagining the desert of his skin.....he reaches out, rests his hand on the ifrit's tumescent cock and, comforted, he sleeps."

    That would have been just as intimate in my opinion. But still, shoutout to non-white gay characters.
     
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    Ha! But yeah....show some dick and all of a sudden it's everybody's favourite show.
     
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    Haven't seen the show, but I liked the scene yes. But I wouldn't call it a sex scene! It was very "clean".
     
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    Ok, I just finished eight (8) episodes. I have a few thoughts on the show in general and the episode in particular. I had to watch several episode a couple times because the show is a little meta and has a lot of moving parts and storylines. It won't be a show that I could tune in every week, it will definitely be moved over to the binge category.

    The episode in question was, in my opinion, tasteful but also explicit for general TV viewing. It was hardly pornographic but I think a very soft depiction of gay sex. The added layer of complexity was it was gay sex between Middle Eastern or Arab men, who spoke in Arabic. I don't know what sex with a god would feel like but I was able to capture the moment in the eyes of the characters.

    I think the most graphic part was the cartoonish cumming inside the one bottom character which took me by surprise because I wasn't paying close attention.
     
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