American preacher killed on remote Indian island by a group of hunter-gatherers

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    White Christian privilege does not apply everywhere.

    Not only don't I give a fuk....but I wish the indigenous peoples of North, South America and Africa would have done the same thing hundreds of years ago when Europeans set foot on their lands.

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    An American visiting one of the islands in India’s remote cluster of Andaman and Nicobar has been killed by a group of hunter-gatherers who live there isolated from the outside world, two police officials said on Wednesday.


    The North Sentinel Island is out of bounds for visitors, and is home to the Sentinelese community, who allegedly killed the American, identified as John Allen Chau, after he was illegally ferried there by fishermen, the officials added.

    “A murder case has been registered,” one of the officials told Reuters. Both officials sought anonymity as they are not authorized to speak to the media.


    In a statement late on Tuesday, Deepak Yadav, a senior police officer, said authorities in the island chain in the Bay of Bengal had launched an investigation.


    The investigation began after police were contacted by the United States consulate in the southern city of Chennai, which has been in touch with Chau’s mother, the statement said.


    “We are aware of reports concerning a U.S. citizen in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands,” a consulate spokeswoman said in an email.


    “When a U.S. citizen is missing, we work closely with local authorities as they carry out their search efforts,” she added, but declined to provide further details over privacy concerns.


    One of the police sources told Reuters Chau was a preacher who had visited the Andaman and Nicobar islands in the past. Police have learned he had a strong desire to meet the Sentinelese and preach on the island, the source added.


    Reuters was unable to confirm if Chau planned to preach on the island, and was not immediately able to trace contact details for his family or a representative.


    One police source told Reuters Chau hired a fishing dinghy and, aided by the fishermen, reached the vicinity of the island on Nov. 16, before transferring to a canoe.


    His body, spotted the following day by the fishermen on their return, has not yet been retrieved, the official said, adding that the fishermen who took him there had been arrested.


    North Sentinel Island is about 50 km (31 miles) west of Port Blair, the capital of the island cluster.


    In 2006, two fishermen, whose boat strayed onto the 60-sq-km (23-square-mile) island, were killed and their bodies never recovered.


    An Indian Coast Guard helicopter sent to retrieve the bodies was repelled by a volley of arrows from the community, believed to be the last pre-Neolithic tribe in the world.


    Reporting by Sanjib Kumar Roy; Writing by Euan Rocha; Editing by Clarence Fernandez
     
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    Bodies never retrieved... They probably ate them bodies. Also, though I find the whole idea of this man being murdering disturbing, I find it more insane that folks are pushing religious beliefs on tribes that have lived in peace without any interference from outside nosy sources complicating their life with man made rules of what right and wrong.

    Not to sound mean but did God lead this man to his demise? Cause you know that's what he probably was thinking. God told him to tell people about Jesus.
     
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    If white privilege has told me anything recently-I bet he was a little too aggressive and flashing pictures of a white Jesus. Rest in peace. But don’t go fucking with people on their land ... They can, and will stand their ground!
     
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    He's Asian btw.

    I don't feel any sympathy. Those people have been living in seclusion with no problems. Everyone doesn't want to connect with people. Let them people be.
     
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    People don’t understand that India’s policy is also medical, not just social-cultural-political. Us “modern folk” carry diseases that can easily wipe out indigenous people with our mere individual presence. These people have been previously contacted and experienced population loss.

    I’m sure there’s a lot of MAGA types who jumped at the clickbait nature of the story. Fuck ‘em. Take your smallpox blankets and bibles and shove them up your collective asses!

    Even Phil Collins knows what time it is lol
     
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    I don't have an iota of sympathy for this muthafucka. He knew it was illegal to go to the island and contact this tribe. They tried to warn him away previously but he insisted on going there even though they made it clear they don't want any contact with outsiders. His death is the result of his own arrogance because he thought it was his duty to proselytize. Militant Christians just refuse to take no for an answer. So he got what he got.
     
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    Authorities Aren't Sure How to Retrieve the Body of an American Missionary Killed on a Protected Island

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    A 26-year-old graduate of Oral Roberts University who had previously been on mission trips to Israel and South Africa was killed attempting to preach the gospel on a remote, protected Indian island. Now authorities aren’t sure how to retrieve his body.

    John Allen Chau had wanted to preach to the people living on North Sentinel, a protected island in the Andaman Sea, since high school. But the Sentinelese have historically just wanted to be left alone.

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    According to the New York Times the Sentinelese have a long history of being harassed by outsiders, often bringing disease and death. One of the first recorded interactions with the Sentinelese comes from an account of a 19th century British naval officer, who took humans from the island as if they were souvenirs:

    Fascinated, the officer, Maurice Vidal Portman, basically kidnapped several islanders. He took them back to his house on a bigger island, where the British ran a prison, and watched the adults grow sick and die. After returning the children to the island, he ended his experiment, calling it a failure.

    In recent years, the Indian government has taken steps to cordon off the Manhattan-sized island in order to preserve the Sentinelese culture and to protect its inhabitants (rumored to be between 50 and 100) from disease. The Indian Navy patrols the water around North Sentinel, and the last outsiders who washed ashore, a pair of fishermen in 2006, were also killed.

    Chau paid local fishermen to take him close enough to paddle to shore in a kayak. On his three attempts to visit the island, the Sentinelese sometimes laughed at him, sometimes just stared, and once, shot an arrow through the waterproof Bible he held. The New York Times published this excerpt from a diary Chau kept:

    “Two armed Sentinelese came rushing out yelling,” he wrote in the letter. “They had two arrows each, unstrung, until they got closer. I hollered, ‘My name is John, I love you and Jesus loves you.’”

    He gave them some fish, but the islanders kept coming toward him: “I turned and paddled like I never have in my life,” he said.

    “I felt some fear but mainly was disappointed,” he admitted. “They didn’t accept me right away.”

    On November 16, Chau gave his diary to the fishermen, assuring them that he’d be fine to stay on the island overnight. On November 17, the fisherman saw the islanders burying Chau’s body in a shallow grave.

    Now, authorities are left with legal, cultural, and epidemiological issues around recovering Chau’s remains. Dependra Pathak, a police official in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, explained the problems to CNN:

    “The mission was done from a distance to avoid any potential conflict with the tribespeople as it’s a sensitive zone.” [...] “There are legal requirements as well which we need to keep in mind while carrying out the operation. We are also studying the 2006 case where two local fishermen were killed. The bodies were recovered then.”

    One of the written goals for Oral Roberts University’s mission program is to bring Jesus “to the lost and hurting” for a “sustainable impact on discipleship and community development, and we see the Kingdom moving forward.”

    There are echoes of those ideas in Chau’s diary, but there’s fear and doubt too:

    In one passage, he asked God if North Sentinel was “Satan’s last stronghold.” In another: “What makes them become this defensive and hostile?”

    “It’s weird — actually no, it’s natural: I’m scared,” Mr. Chau wrote. “There, I said it. Also frustrated and uncertain — is it worth me going a foot to meet them?”

    He added, “I don’t want to die!
     
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    Why should public funds (in this case Indian taxpayers) be used to retrieve the body? He violated law, he paid the price.
     
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    let the missionary he represented pay for it. fuckers
     
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    I mean, hell, even fiction writers understood the principle. Wasn’t Gene Roddenberry’s Prime Directive on Star Trek for Kirk and Picard not to go fucking around with other alien’s culture? This is just white imperialism by another name, but it’s supposed to be pitied and excused because it was in the name of some deity.

    Like I said, the medical concern is very important. Even the previous Indian officials and anthropologists that had limited interaction with these people understood they needed shots, etc. to keep from harming them with viruses, etc. for which they had no immunity. This fucker ignored all protocol, especially medical, because arrogance made him think he was better than Indian officials, cause, you know, Americans and Westerners should be allowed to violate any foreign laws they wish (not...)
     
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    I heard one quote saying "I want to establish Kingdom of God"

    :sass2:Well now he can see God's Kingdom 1st hand, suddenly lol . :weak:
     
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