Cardi B confronts Peter Gunz

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    So this woman Cardi B is being praised by woke black women and black gay men across blogs and black social media for her supposed "pro feminism" stance during a confrontation with Peter Gunz on a reality show reunion special. As one fan put it "Isn't that some ish these guys think it's ok to ask for sex but don't expect to give nothing in return." Yet the foolishness in this mindset of the males and females involved seems to be escaping everyone.
     
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    As the gays say she read em for filth lol.:kermit: But she just said what everyone has been tippy toeing towing around. Why the hell do beautiful talented people stay with dudes like this. Dude has showed he is is not loyal, does not respect you, does not love you, and proved to be non-monogamous. I know its a tv show and your getting a check but your making a fool of yourself on national tv. And the kids....some day their kids will see this....some are prob old enough to access to it already......the kids in school do gossip and have the internet. Why do I keep watching this foolishness smh. cpnoway
     
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    Agreed HOWEVER...why do / are women expecting something in return for having sex with a man? Its sex. Why does a man fuking you now means he is responsible for your emotional and financial support? Why do so many women and many gay men have this thought process? This is what began this clip.

    Also...to me...feminism is to question the women...not the "low down" man. Getting played and allowing yourself to be played are not the same thing. This brand of feminism reminds be of the Beyonce feminism of "he fuck me good so I take him to Red Lobster."...ugh
     
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    It depends on the relationship. Cardi B's point of view was that (i believe) if your in a "relationship"/lituation where your spending time, energy, sex, caring, sharing etc if that person needs help (money); whats wrong with helping them out a little? That's different than just a random hook-up. Thats why people hire excorts it makes the process easier and both parties get what they want with no strings attached.

    No to be too intelligent but must girls and gays view the world with hetro-normative eyes. Men are expected to financial take care of women (or bottoms for gays); its inbreed in us form a young age. When you talk about love and hip hop you also talking about a lot of girls who are vulnerable (no father, hard/hood upbrining, been doged out, no money) and seek vilatdion in men and get it through sex for money things for come up in life. They also will have kids with ni**hs who aint sh** believing he will change into a family man and marry them when his actions prove that to be wrong. That's where Cari B is talking about Peter keeps manipulating these women who genuinely care about him (and mother his kids) but continues to sh** on them. The lest he could do is pay rent they live in NJ so rent is cheaper there. I cant believe Iam supporting Cardi B and Love and Hip Hop this so is so additive lol smh.
     
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    To my understanding from the folks who saw the show based on the comments...."Aint no broke ni@@as getting this pussy" is the attitude of Cardi and the women supporting this pro feminist POV.

    The thing is...if you like sex / pleasure and you're independent and have your own...the finances attached to the penis is not your concern. Under no circumstances should sex equal support. If you want to get paid from having sex, become a porn actor/tress or prostitute.

    Isn't this what real feminism is? To me what is being described in the commentary on blogs/vlogs and in social media is addressing the real effects and not the causes.

    These women are not victims but willing participants. To say they're getting played by Peter Gunz is basically sexist because they are viewed as feeble damsels in distress.

    Both Cardi and Peter have warped senses of healthy functional relationships.
     
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    All of this is a whole bunch of silly mess. The women involved are dumb (including Cardi B) and their portrayal of "women" is confusing the hell out of a generation. Everybody aint gonna get a washed up rapper, baller or drug dealer. They gone be left to deal with Tyrone who work for UPS with some good ding ding. And fight over it with two co-workers, a baby mama and whoever else flossing a fat stank one. This is disgusting. Disgusting.
     
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    To be honest most of Love and Hip have a warped sense of functional relationships. Most come from dysfunctional backgrounds and were never taught and are unwilling to learn what is acceptable behavior is n a relationship. Most of the women are looking for a come up and most of the men are looking just to smash while being his honest and selling a dream. They all need an Iyanla Vanzant moment and own their stuff.
    As for as the feminism I would not call theses women true feminist. Feminist (to my understating) is about women not needing men and women working together to empower them selves. And if you ask Bell Hooks, Cardi b, Beyonce and the rest are actually anti feminist terrorist that's in collaboration with hegemonic patriarchy meant to oppression of women specifically black women.
     
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    Plain and simple, Peter Gunz is a piece of shit. He's walking the fuck around with his dick out willing to fuck anything with a vagina. Tara, the woman who he has been with for about 15-16 years or so and whom he has two kids and one on the way with and Amina, the former sidechick/wife, who he has a kid with both are deservingly trapped in the world of believing that their love for him (and his gold, fertile dick) validates overlooking his bs and it's sickening. At this point, it's very sad on many mental health levels. He only cares about himself and getting pussy. And with having about 5 or 6 baby mammas, all those god damn kids, and a girlfriend and former sidechick/wife going at each other for the "Peter is MY MAN, because.." crown, he's created a resume that reflects more potential to move forward in his career of lying, cheating, impregnating, and manipulating women into what will not be. It didn't have to take a former stripper turned reality show participant/trap rapper to put that memo out there.
     
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    UNLESS these women were victims of sexual assault or rape...they are not victims. Allowing yourself to be used by a non-committed non-monogamous man is not victim-hood but participation.
     
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    You don't have to have been those things you have stated to be a victim. They are victims because of being dick dumb and mental and emotional slaves to his bs. He is the root cause. It's an emotional disease and it's very common with women who get hooked on men like Peter. I have seen it too many times, even with my sisters. The women involved have the power to change their reality in this horrible situation; however, he's still a piece of shit.
     
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    The real victims here are the kids. The parents go around say but its a blessing. No its not! The God i serve dont bless mess :sucka:Not saying the child's existence is wrong but the situation their being birth into is wrong. Stop birthing kids into dysfunction and claim its a blessing and then parade around like its funny its a disgrace. Who wants to grow up and see you were a Love and Hip Hop side piece baby and your dad is creep squad member and your mom was.......never mind. And see your parents on tv behaving dysfunctional. Their going to look at their parents like this when they try to discipline them. :nopekid::iverson2::fantasia:

    Lord Hep them youngins make it n dis hin ole wurld.:banderas:
     
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    Man, yes the women are definitely accountable for their participation in foolishness. But maybe its just my conservative or back in the day mentality of looking at the dude like "damn that dude at sh*t".

    Yeah i guess the same can be said for the women but I feel a man should ALWAYS represent and hold down values. HELL, lead and set a positive example. Just like homegirl Cardi B said, he got daughters.
     
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    Men...yall are hurting my heart with this here dialogue. This reminds me of the no-fats, no-fems, no-blacks "victims."
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    This post proves my point that many if not most women want to "feminist" only when it's convenient. They can't decide from one minute to the next if they want to be like independent or taken care of. Now if she wants a man to spend money on her or take care of her(which is actually the traditional arrangement) she should cook, clean, take care of the kids, and keep the back talk to a minimum. Also why should a man pay for sex if it's just a meaningless fuck? Whores charge money for sex. A lot of straight women want to use their pussy like an ATM but don't want to be called whores. But it is what is. That said a man should take care of his wife and his kids. Finally there is plenty of stupidity, triflin behavior, and just plain fuckery on display here.
     
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    I LOVE CARDI B!!!
     
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    Exactly! This broad knew Peter was grimy when she spread those legs but she did it anyway. Now she wants to play the victim when she actually played her part. A lot of gay men do this too. She gets no sympathy from me. #sorrynotsorry
     
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    I think they're "victims", just not Peter Gunz's. Like @mojoreece said about everyone needing an Iyanla moment, they allow themselves to get into these situations due to the kinds of numerous, complex reasons that lead to so many poor single mothers and crime-entrenched neighborhoods. Even Peter Gunz is "broken" in some way. I don't think most healthily functioning adults want 10 children with 6 baby mamas. It must be stressful. Something has put them into psychological and emotional states that consider these type of situations acceptable, maybe even desirable to some extent. Maybe they just take what they can get or hand wave it as "love is complicated" and don't consider the possibility that these relationships may be dysfunctional.

    But no, Peter Gunz didn't personally make them accept his shit. The moms don't even seem that pissed, like they'd be happy and proud to take him back from another woman. Seems like there's a dominant relationship dynamic in which the receptive partners in penetrative sex expect to be nurtured and cared for rather than simply viewing sex as two people choosing to share their bodies with one another for mutual sexual benefits. That kinda makes sense for receiving males because their role generally comes with more expectations and effort, but even they should recognize that the sex, in itself, is the reward. It doesn't come with added benefits even if they had to prepare more.
     
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    I think everyone has good points here including Ocky. Make no mistake, the females are not getting a pass just because their women and therefore "victims". Accountability is needed with all participants.

    However, I wonder if we may be missing a simple part that many people don't discuss. GOOD DICK can make a lot of people do crazy shit!!!

    These women as well as many other women could have past issues that make them spread their legs without thought of repercussions. But I have also seen MANY women (men as well) who are college educated, good backgrounds, and very successful but get a dude throwing a big ass dick crazy and they lose their mind, get shot up in and have multiple babies or abortions, go to jail, etc. You get my jest.

    Maybe the simple fact could be Peter Gunz sex game is cray. You got an aint sh*t dude with good dick and if you can't control your desire for it, the aint shit dude gonna do what you let him get away with.
     
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    Da fuck? :dafuq3:
    As opposed to what...me usually making some bad points?
    :franko1::babylawd: BUT at some point logic has to step in.
     
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    True indeed. My response wasn't to say that Tara and Amina don't have fault in this situation. Tara simply fell for that "I won't do it again" BS and became complacent, because she has kids and has used them as an excuse to keep dealing my his ass. And Amina simply is needy and drunk off the dick, being the dick dumb woman she is. But at the end the day, Peter still ain't shit and is the primary contributor. He needs a vasectomy, long-term counseling on relationships and self-worth (as well as Amina and Tara), and if the vasectomy doesn't work, it needs his pee pee surgically removed, so no more kids have to be put in this situation of daddy adding more baby mommas and more kids. And if additionally possible, if you are a woman attempting to date him, you should be arrested and charged with "Dumb Ass Heffer" in the 5th degree. Just a hot ass mess.

    FYI: And after being pregnant and getting an abortion with the second child, Amina is PREGNANT again....DONE!
     
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    LMAO. Nah i didn't mean is like that Ocky. Even tho now I can see how it can be taken that way.
    You always make sense. :sass2:
     
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