Flint Water Crisis

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    What do you think?

    Should there be criminal charges for anyone?

    What kind of compensation should be given? How much should be from the Federal Government(given the EPA involvement/signoff, etc)

    How much is this due to racism?
    How much is do to classism?
    How much is due to just general incompetence, greed, etc.?
     
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    I think its what happens when you have greedy and stupid people in charge of shit, there should be criminal charges but there not going to be. The compensation part is hard because this is the kind of stuff that fucks up your system forever so money won't really make a difference.
    Is this due to racism and classism most definitely they knew about this problem for a good long while but choose to ignore it. If had been a whiter and richer place they would have put a little more effort into fixing the problem.

    On a general note infrastructure in most of the U.S. is old needs replacing, but good luck trying to get any of that stuff done.
     
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    ^^ I pretty much agree with everything you said. Yeah the compensation won't change the damage that is done.
    Some of the specifics are just do damned evil..that is what gets me.

    -That GM told the governor's administration that they would not even use Flint water in their production process because it was too corrosive to the parts-and this was in October of 2014.

    -The EPA fought with the state over concerns that the water needed treatment for acidity and it was not getting. The EPA could not force a change, but still did nothing about alerting people about their concerns.

    -The Snyder administration was just exposed as having secretly trucked in bottled water to the government buildings in Flint over one year ago! They placed these water coolers next to all of the drinking fountains.

    These things are just so damning. And his head will not roll. Because they just saw Flint and its black and poorer white residents as not worth it. When you run government as a business without appropriate checks in place (think GOP)this is what happens.

    -And if they treated the water as they should have, it actually would have been more expensive than staying with Detroit's water.
    -And this Flint river water was only supposed to last until they got the Lake Huron pipeline ready..2 or 3 years. But it was just revealed in leaked emails that Flint would pay 20% more for even that than they would have if they stayed with Detroit water. There was no savings to be had at all for any part of the plan.

    And yet per the GOP we need less government and less governmental regulation and oversight. SMH. More power to that states...yeah right. Can you imagine some of the laws that would still be on the books(or would have been enacted) if more decisions were just 'up to the states' especially in the less progressive states?
     
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    I think it's a combination of racism, classism, and government incompetence and corruption. It's not a case of either or. What people forget about or ignore is that in the United States class and race are joined at the hip. How white supremacy is enforced, post slavery and especially in the post civil rights era is through economics and the class system. Black Americans are set up to be a permanent underclass in this country with little or no economic or political power. Until we realize class struggle and race struggle are one in the same we will not defeat the enemy.
     
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    I cant remember who I was just watching on a panel the other day, but they pointed out how we'd NEVER hear about a Beverly Hills water crisis.
     
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    So many Americans are just a major crisis away from becoming part of the underclass and they have no idea of just how easily they can fall into it. A nasty divorce, a job loss, a medical catastrophe. I know, I am a part of the underclass now..thanks to one of those unexpected things and the help of the Great American Recession. Just surviving now. (and f@ck Chase Bank to hell for all eternity).

    What is even sadder is that there is a Beverly Hills in Michigan. It has an average family wealth that is equal to that of Beverly Hill, California. It actually has a lower poverty rate. It is only 4.5 miles from the city limits of - Detroit
    As Cyrus-Brooks mentioned, class and race. The wealthier outlying areas around Flint itself are not and would never have this problem either.

    Blacks of course have it way worse but the white middle class is shrinking, and for every one that climbs up, half a dozen are falling back. The way things are going in 50 years we will be back to feudalism with nothing but a small ruling class and a vast nation of serfs.

    Hopefully something can break the divide and conquer strategies which have worked so well for the Elites.
     
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    NO!!!
    ARREST EARLEY AND SNYDER!

    They damned those people at Flint. We trust these bastards and they do this to us.
     
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