Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan Vanity Picture

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  1. Infinite_loop

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    this picture is certainly causing the Black Internet to lose it tonight...what y'all think?

    Obviously, people are overreacting(as uj...)

    Son of Baldwin, a black LGBT-focused blogger sums it up better than I can:

    Apparently, this photo of actor Michael B. Jordan and director Ryan Coogler from a Vanity Fair shoot is disturbing a number of people because it portrays an intimacy between men--between black men--that the rules of patriarchal masculinity, queerantagonism, cisheterosexism, ashiness, and the Male Gaze disallow.

    The quest is to assure everyone, and themselves, that neither man is queer or feminine; that affection between men, platonic or not, is a sign of weakness and vulnerability, and it doesn't matter than the very state of humanity is one of weakness and vulnerability and the fear of facing this existential fact is precisely why we're always on the precipice of self-destruction.

    Whether Jordan and Coogler are "just boys" or something more: It shouldn't matter. Love between black people should always be celebrated given how much violence between black people is always encouraged.

    James Baldwin was perceptive when he said in THE PRICE OF THE TICKET:

    "I doubt that Americans will ever be able to face the fact that the word ‘homosexual’ is not a noun. The root of this word, as Americans use it — or, as this word uses Americans — simply involves a terror of any human touch, since any human touch can change you."

    http://www.vanityfair.com/…/michael-b-jordan-grimes-st-vinc…

    [Photo description: Indoors. A black and white photo. On the left, Michael B. Jordan looks at the camera. He is seen from the chest up. He is wearing a suit. He is facing the camera. He has his left hand on the head of Ryan Coogler, who is standing to Michael's left. Ryan is seen from his profile. He is looking into the camera. Background is gray.]
     
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    ....I was on Tumblr earlier this evening and saw the responses of Black men actually defending how "this sh*t is gay".... ....I, uh, just never mind yeh, I'm tired.
     
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    LOL I literally said "Oh boy..." when I saw the picture on my fb timeline, I already knew people would be coming for Ryan and Michael. I mean all I see is just two black best friends taking a goofy picture...am I missing something?
     
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    ....I don't get it.

    One time yeh, I was outside of this restaurant waiting for my boy (he's like an older brother really) to get there. And this, this guy man, he plays too f*cking much. To get to the moral of the story, I guess our waitress saw our playful, physical exchanges outside (I think he put me in a headlock after I probably complained about how late he was; sh*t, I'm usually the late one yeh and you gotta be pretty damn late if I'm the one complaining) and then later heard our playful banter inside.

    As she was bringing our drinks back yeh, I remember him leaving for the toilet and while he was gone, she had took my order and then asked me if I am ordering for "my boyfriend" as well.... ....I was taken back a bit because I just answered and didn't correct her. I told him when he came back, he laughed about it and said he was offended that she'd think "I'd be with a guy who looks like you." ....We then later corrected her in the end and she was mortified to say the least.

    ....it's a funny story we share now and I get to tease him about it from time to time (although the n*gga thinks that he could "do better than me" if he was gay).
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    ....old white lady crossed the line, but I don't think it was with ill-intentions.... ....but for two Black men showing any intimacy between each other having to mean that their are gay is well, just....stupid.
     
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    ....by the way yeh, speaking of friends, I'm sorry I've been a really bad one lately. @Infinite_loop
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    My only problem is I dont agree with the the pose for the pic. Its unnatural and does not seem right. I think that's what a lot of people feel. Like if I was the photographer i would have chosen to do any of these poses:
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    I agree that it does have some intimacy but not all sexual. I like the poses of most these. This one kind of bothers me. It seems "unnatural." I'm not sure why.

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    I think dude pretty much summed it up. We'll always have our bigots, racists, homophobes, etc., but I think people have a responsibility to question, correct and/or call out individuals like that.
     
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    Personally I don't see anything wrong with the pic. I think it symbolizes to brothers who are secure in their masculinity, manhood, and sexuality to pose close with one another. It's amazing how supposedly "straight" guys worry about homosexuality 24/7 and yet half the time their relationship with their significant other or lack thereof is falling a part at times.
     
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    If pictures like this makes people uncomfortable, I would hate for them to journey outside the U.S, where stuff like this is normal. I remember the male teachers at my school in China would be pretty much wrapped around each other. Two dudes can be intimate without being gay.
     
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    And they say black folk aren't {more} homophobic than the rest. smh
     
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    I am tired of scary black people coming for these two. Over it all.
     
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    If it was two white guys posing like this nobody would care. He is just kind of holding his head in support like 'I got you' or something...they are not even that close to each other and they are barely even touching. The reactions you all are talking about are surprising to me.
     
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    You don't know the half of it, Bro. LOL Most of us on this site have grown up around these ig'nant a$$ mentalities and commentaries.
     
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    This is so ridiculous. Sometimes I love Black Twitter and Black Internet and other times I am like:

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    LMFAO!!!
     
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    I dont remember what yall talkin bout, but I'm always here for Antoine Dodson
     
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    Me too!! LOL Ain't he "DeLIVERT" now? LOL
     
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    Smh @ any sad woman willing...
     
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    My ex was him for Halloween that year. They had an actual, purchasable costume of a bandana wig n a wife beater..smh
     
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    The reaction to this photo is reminding me how much I dislike human beings.
     
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    I wont even bother to chime in on the actual topic...well...Kudos to them for removing sexuality from their energy in that pic. All blk men are NOT head cases.
     
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    Yet, any1 who signed up here on CA should have lowered expectations of 'comment' sections elsewhere
     
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    They were better off taking a photo like this:

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    awww come here you....let's bff and make up [​IMG]
     
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    ....I have to disagree, there is nothing absolutely suggestive about their pose. Yes, I'll give you that it seems "unnatural" and that you don't see many people posing like that....but anything farther than that is an absolute reach yeh. Their pose is imperfectly perfect....I dig it.
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    Its not that Im trying to imply any thing like other people. Its really or of a critique. And after lookin at the pic for a long time they look really nice together. . Its just that I would of did a different pose out of personal taste. Its more of artist critique personal state than any thing else.
     
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    No no, I know that you weren't insinuating anything based of their pose but their pose is what's literally causing this bedlam innit....I personally don't see anything suggestive....and I don't think that's because of the gay in me.
     
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    Nobody gives me a hug...
     
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    People will just have something to say about everything. If the models are comfortable doing the poses then who cares. Maybe it is slightly homoerotic but there's an audience that appreciates that. If your uncomfortable viewing the picture then maybe the picture isn't for you and it's probably meant for some people to feel uncomfortable so they can get over it.
     
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    I thought it was a weird pose but I wasn't mad about it. People have too much time on their hands.
     
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    True… Seth Rogen and James Franco can practically be mid-coitus on a magazine cover and people celebrate and applaud their bromance.
     
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    I thouht this video by gay comedian Sampson would be fitting. It is another confirmation on the beauty of the photo.

     
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