Textbook Example of How Gay Mainstream Media Continues to Push Negative Gay Stereotypes

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    The Logo channel has a new dating / bachelor style show, Finding Prince Charming that features a main bachelor (Price Charming Robert Sepúlveda) and a number of suitors vying for the final spot on his arm. In reality TV land, this is cool…in real life, kinda pathetic and desperate to have a group of men competing for one dude. Nonetheless, this is show business so it gets a pass. What doesn’t get a pass; the ridiculous negative stereotypes that this show promotes and the damaging messages that are reinforced about homosexual men.



    Observation
    For the last couple of years, the queer feminist pc all-inclusive online spaces are over saturated with blogs, vlogs, articles and essays (both on and off mainstream websites) of gays protesting the “No Fats, Fems, Blacks, Asians” dating app mantra. Yet on a cable channel that caters to this same group, we have a dating show that has no fats or Asians…and may I add no one over the age of 35.


    Why this is a Problem?
    It’s hypocritical and detracts from the already questionable credibility that many have with the LGBTQ community concerning conversations around certain types of supposed “shaming” and acceptance. There are no other ethnicities here outside of the Black / White dynamic. Granted the “Prince” (Robert Sepúlveda) is of Puerto Rican decent but he is still a White Latino. Indian, Arab, Asian, Pacific Islander, Indigenous American…all absent.


    And where are the thick men or the bears? No I’m not talking about “gay fat” men, no I mean the thick bearish men or the fat dudes whose body types are represented, like on Logo’s other mega popular show Drag Race? These are the ones the queer PC police told us that we should stop (rightfully so) body shaming right and are just as sexy as those sporting 6 pack abs? Well, I least from what I saw in the trailer, they’re not represented here either.

    Something else that I’ve noticed is the ageism in male homosexual culture. If you’re over 35 you’re sticking your tip in AARP senior citizen territory. 40 and over, and you’ve worked the length and girth all the way in. There are countless older men who are established, sexy and in the best shape of their lives who are over 40 years old. For the sake of this particular show, it kinda gets a pass due to the understanding that many people look for partners in their own age range….but this IS show business. Just like with more ethnicities, a wider variety in age could have been beneficial for gay consumption. I feel elements within gay media need to prepare young men to life after the partying and fast lifestyles.

    Prince Charming Robert Sepúlveda
    There is a neatly PR packaged bio for “Prince Charming” on the Logo channel; however there is also an extensive online foot print of Sepúlveda as well. After seeing the latter…WTF?


    Really Logo? I mean was this some kind of casting couch decision? This was like discovering the man or woman I’m engaged to was a bukakee bareback gang bang recipient…and it’s all on film.

    Not only is Robert Sepúlveda an ex-escort / prostitute, but currently there are videos of him online conducting himself in semen play, masturbation and self-anal masturbation (best term I could think of at the moment) to name a few. Couple that with the copious amount of shirtless pics posing in designer underwear and you have the makings of a narcissistic stereotypical pay-to-play gaylebrity image that infests the homosexual community.

    Did they even do a background check or were they (Logo execs and Lance Bass) just simply dickmotized by Sepúlveda’s nude photos and mesmerized by his Instagram chiseled dime a dozen physique? This is the bachelor Prince Charming they decided to present to the homosexual and heterosexual masses. Sepúlveda (by Logo’s standards) represents the crème de la crème homosexual man that the other men fawn and fuss over for his affections.

    Sepúlveda released a statement concerning his (cough) escort-porn past:

    I think that a real Prince Charming is someone who has life experience in all aspects of life, that isn’t afraid of someone with HIV or someone who doesn’t care what you’ve done in your past. The past is the past. I was young and it helped through college,’ he said. ‘But what I want people to focus on is who I am today as an entrepreneur, as an activist.

    Fair enough, but why when I Google Sepúlveda, it looks like he is allergic to shirts and pants? Why aren’t there over whelming majority of the pictures in a Google image search not of his successful business and activism?

    Why this is a Problem?
    By propping Sepúlveda up as the Gold Star does nothing but help exacerbate the harmful outdated clichés that homosexual men lack morals, standards, are overly promiscuous and spread disease more so than our heterosexual counterparts.


    Can we get a regular non-ex-prostitute homosexual man who doesn’t currently have pornographic videos online doing questionable things with semen, hands and bottles who isn’t an aspiring gaylebrity hoping to become a gay celebrity media whore?

    I’m not saying homosexual men (like myself) don’t have a past. I’m not saying men (like myself) who have done questionable or sexual acts like what Sepúlveda displays in his videos are bad. Nor am I shaming those sexual acts or escorts (one of the oldest entrepreneurial professions in history). We all love sex.

    What I am saying is that we’re not all superficial, materialistic, queer identifying, escorts, fashionistas, dramatical, sassy or catty men with fitness model physiques desperately seeking male attention…and were not all feminists with penises. We’re all not like the homosexual men that are paraded in front of us on reality television.

    Unfortunately the diverse totality of the homosexual male in mainstream media continues to thrive on tired tropes. This conditions and indoctrinates many young homosexual men into thinking and believing that to be a part, one must adopt and conform to these dominate LGBT cultural standards; while simultaneously alienating homosexual men (regardless of masculine or feminine characteristics) whose personalities and behaviors don’t fall in line.

    Is Logo saying that Sepúlveda is the single homosexual man next door…that Sepúlveda is the standard American Gay Bachelor?

    To the homosexual or same gender loving men, do you agree with or accept this standard or representation? In your experience, is Logo actually correct in that Sepúlveda is the normal (past included) regular, around the way, single gay man looking for love? Is he – and this show – endemic of the gay culture?

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    Excellent post. No, I do not agree with this standard of representation. But it is pretty much in line with the way the media and the Gay Elite set the standard of how gays are perceived. This is Just like how so much marketing to gays is done through the lens of the Gay Elite-a lens which tends to see things leaner, in better shape, younger, wealthier, and whiter than the way things really are.
     
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    I always found it weird for men to be on shows like this. Flavor of Love was funny, but when I Love New York came out, as much as the guy were sexy, it was downright pathetic watching them embarrass themselves for that broad. Same thing applies to this show. It's bad enough the producers put little effort into finding a REAL Prince Charming, or give the show some sort of originality other than the "gay" title; but also, the men are going to act like bitchy, feminine, stereotypes of homosexual males for the sake of getting famous. Logo has always been a disappoint to me though, so I wasn't expecting much.
     
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    I rather have a tv show like this than a gay bad boys club reality tv show. From the picture I see two guys that seems to be a little heavier and its not a all white cast. Maybe they pick the people based on what prince charming attraction is. Even though it is gay people, it still is a reality tv show so there has to be some type of drama. Why are people so upset about dudes background? This dude doesn't represent the whole gay community obviously and everyone has a past. I don't disagree or agree with the representation , I simply don't care because it's reality tv.
     
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    Because a straight white man trying to be 'the bachelor' for this year wouldn't be an ex escort w sex vids all over the interwebs! Like I said before, it get's an 'oh, its his past', because he is gay. And ppl all ready think that gay men just spend all day at sex parties.

    The reality of this situation is that he is an attractive, white, fit, latino (the only lane u never see shunned on the apps) and he gets to be the 'gay bachelor'.

    No thanks.
     
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    "...attractive, white, fit, latino (the only lane u never see shunned on the apps)"
    100% Truth. I think the only guys online that would reject this group are militant black guys and white guys that ONLY f&*k black guys, and you know well as me both those categories are very miniscule LOL
     
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    Honestly, I just can't find a fuck to give about this show, Logo TV, mainstream gay culture and it's one-dimensional, white-washed, superficial, materialistic, sex-obsessed image it projects into the lgbt+ "community" and the larger heterosexual world. Don't know whether that's right or wrong, but it's honestly how I feel.

    Partly because I've always believed that there's no one on the face of the earth that can represent who I am better than me. I've got my own voice, thoughts, opinions, and self-image that I, over the past two years since coming out, have slowly but surely begun to share with the world. Now, I'm not saying that representation isn't important, but that I'm not waiting on Logo, Hollywood or anyone else to represent me...and they seem to be content on perpetuating tropes.

    Then I've come to realize that no matter what image is projected of gay men there will always be heterosexuals who think we're sexual degenerates who will burn in the Second Ring of Hell, so I'm certainly no longer caring about what heterosexuals think of me and my "lifestyle choice."

    With that said...
    I've seen my little cousin try and fit into the stereotypical gay mold when he first came out. It failed, as it did for me and many others, big time.

    I think the only solution to this is for the gay men that don't "fit the mold" to make their voices even louder so that everyone (regardless of sexual orientation) can see that we are more than this bullshit show.

    Just my two cents...
     
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    Just like The Bachelor, the brother is to the left by the end of the first episode, or is treated as such an "other" entity by the other contestants that he becomes a problem. There is truly a problem with the lack of diversity on this show which speaks volumes about Logo's commitment to diversity in every facet of what they are presenting to the public. Ball culture (or whatever Drag Race represents, because I don't think it's a true representation of any ball culture videos I've ever seen) is okay to show different shapes, tones and ages because they can be hidden with hair, make-up & humor. But on a dating show THIS is who you pick as the centerpiece and these guys are your representative gays. Again, this speaks VOLUMES.
     
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    Whilst i understand the whole white, toned guy thing being the ideal etc., the truth is life is hard for all gays. No one irregardless of race seems to form lasting relationships, yes the whites might get the media attention and all the likes but still i believe every gay guy is having it hard in their personal lives. A lot of problems we have connecting to each other is the bad attitudes with which we treat each other and way too much free sex and hook ups. If we control these two things there will be better connections
     
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