"The Sad, Surreal Experience of Seeing an Audience Laugh at Moonlight"

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    I recall reading a blog or article about a similar reaction to the gay character in Dear White People involving a larger portion of the audience.

    LINK: The Sad, Surreal Experience of Seeing an Audience Laugh at Moonlight

    The Sad, Surreal Experience of Seeing an Audience Laugh at Moonlight
    By E. Alex Jung

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    Barry Jenkins’s remarkable coming-of-age film, again. It was a Friday night at BAM, and the screening was completely sold out. Early on, though, one scene made me realize I might have picked a bad audience: It’s in the first third of the movie, where our young hero Chiron is sitting at the dining table with this surrogate parents, Juan and Teresa (Mahershala Ali and Janelle Monáe). He asks them, point-blank, “What’s a faggot?” It’s a moment that feels like a gut punch. When I first saw it, I held my breath, waiting to hear what Juan would say. He explained that it was a negative word used to describe men who liked other men. Then came the next question, “Am I a faggot?” A group of women behind me started giggling at the first question and were full-on laughing by the second — so much so that they drowned out Juan’s response. I was perplexed: Were we watching the same movie?

    In the darkness of a theater, no one can see you side-eye. And perhaps emboldened, the laughter only got worse as the film went on. There was a noticeable pattern: Every time there was any expression of gay male intimacy, they laughed. They tittered during the scene where teen Chiron has his first sexual experience on a beach, and they let out wolf whistles when we first meet adult Chiron, shirtless and muscular. (Although to be fair, I thought something similar in my head). And while we got to the film’s emotional climax, the diner scene between Chiron and his grown-up crush Kevin, it was like they were a studio audience watching a sitcom.

    The first time I watched Moonlight was at a press screening. As is often the case, there weren’t that many people in the theater, and I was sitting with a couple of friends. It felt like a private experience, the perfect environment to see a movie like this. That first time, I loved the diner scene. It’s sexy — flirtatious and a little tense. The specter of all those years gone by hangs in the silences between the two men. I remember nervously waiting for Kevin to recognize Chiron, and when he did, something came loose inside of me, and I just started crying. I understood it as that moment of being seen by someone else for the first time, and what an electric, disorienting feeling that could be. Indeed, that’s how Jenkins shoots it: The audio doesn’t sync up with the visual for a brief second. It’s like the world is collapsing in on itself.

    I was nervously anticipating this scene in the theaters the second time, but I couldn’t get into it. As Chiron imagined Kevin smoking outside the diner, there was too much laughter. The audience thought he was funny, maybe corny as hell. But for me, he was hazy and smoldering, just like a dream. As a gay man who often felt like he had to suppress his desires, I understood that fantasy acutely. And that’s when I became keenly aware that I was a gay man watching the movie around a lot of straight people. Listening to their laughter, I couldn’t help but feel that it was demeaning, a way to neuter and compartmentalize gay male intimacy as a punch line.

    This isn’t to say that I think Moonlight doesn’t have its funny moments. In fact, it’s a mistake to think that because a film is about a gay black boy growing up in poverty it must necessarily be a tragedy. There’s joy, love, and humor stitched into the movie, along with alienation and hardship. In fact, there is a beat of humor in that scene where young Chiron asks Juan and Teresa about whether he might be gay: Juan starts to give a caveat, but Teresa gives him a little shake of the head: Not right now, honey. It’s charming and sweet, a moment that acknowledges young Chiron has a lot of life ahead of him.

    I realize we all watch movies differently. I myself have laughed inappropriately at a number of films: I guffawed during Saw when one of the prisoners realizes that he can free himself by cutting off his own foot. (Hence the title: Saw.) I laughed when Mel Gibson tells Joaquin Phoenix, “Swing away, Merrill!” to kill the aliens in Signs. Most recently, I laughed during the climactic scene of Stonewall, when the made-up gay white protagonist “starts” the Stonewall riots and screams something about freedom like he’s in Braveheart. I too sometimes find serious things ridiculous, and it’s likely that I ruined someone else’s viewing experience with my own very loud laughing.

    Sometimes, you watch a movie with exactly the right audience. Earlier this year I watched Train to Busan, a Korean zombie thriller movie at an AMC in Times Square. It was packed with young Korean students, no doubt enrolled in colleges around New York (I can spot BB cream from a mile away). Watching a summer blockbuster with a bunch of Korean kids made me feel like I was back in Seoul again. The movie was tailor-made for this audience: They screamed and jumped and whooped, and their reactions heightened the joy of an already fun movie.

    Ultimately, you never know how an audience — or even you — will react to a film. Each viewer brings their own experience into the film, their own desires and expectations. But part of that experience means moments like this one in Moonlight — moments where the dissonance between audience members becomes distinct — are inevitable. I won’t be able to ever fully understand what the laughter in Moonlight meant, just that it made me uncomfortable. But it’s all fine. I’ll just try not to sit next to you again.
     
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    This happened last night. The dude I was with (black gay slightly fem man who had never seen it) laughed at a lot of it...Namely parts with the mother during the first act and the entire third act. One black straight couple walked out after Black had the wet dream...

    Full disclosure: I didn't say anything but that that I had already saw Moonlight and that "it was good" before we saw it, Moonlight was his choice to see.

    Afterward, I asked what he thought. He said the transition from Chiron to Black was too jarring and unbelievable. He also said something that even I hadn't thought about. At one point Black tells Kevin that he sent to juvenile detention in Atlanta because of the fight incident, then minutes later he says that he and his mother just moved there. And earlier, at the recovery facility, his mother says that she sent him to Atlanta. The dude I was with said all that was just too confusing. He also had a problem with Juan just disappearing without explanation.

    One could have argued their theories with him, but the fact that a regular non-film-minded gay dude thought the movie was confusing, unbelievable and unsatisfying from a storytelling perspective gave me satisfaction that its not just me and @hannibal being haters, lol.
     
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    I've come to the conclusion that it's illegal to dislike the 3rd act.
     
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    I'm not at all surprised by this reaction, here's why.
    1: Most heterosexual black people have no experience or context with seeing male intimacy so it's totally alien and off putting to them. So they can only cope by laughter because it defies their expectations. Sorta like 12 year olds in a sex ed class.

    2: Most heterosexual black people have ugly attitudes regarding homosexual men. So it never even occurs to them to view the character of Chiron with any type of empathy or humanity. Even in the first act when he is a little boy they can't bring themselves to view this black boy who is hurting with any compassion. Most if not all of us been there. Some of us were even treated this way by our own families which is why it seems Moonlight strikes such a raw nerve with a lot of gay bruthas that have seen it.

    My theater experience was different. I've seen it twice both times you could've heard a pin drop in the theater. The first time I saw it the audience was 90% white 10% black the second time it was around 50, 50 black and white. Judging by the reactions both times the audience was riveted. There wasn't even any snickers or negative reactions to the beach scene between teenage Kevin and Chiron.
     
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    The only laughs were about three times during the movie when the drug lord mentor and his girlfriend had "the talk" and he was about to add to the definition of "f**" and the girlfriend shook her head, the "Do you cry..." confession with Kevin and Chiron before their episodic intimacy at the beach, and something adult Kevin said to adult Chiron at the diner.
     
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    I've seen it twice as well and the first time it was more laughter in the theater. We all have different reactions to movies because I know I sometimes find things a lot more funny than others so I didn't have a issue with that. My only problem is the talking during the movie. I'm the type of movie person where I don't want to miss a word, scene, background noise, anything because it all adds to the experience and story trying to be told.
     
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    Something about Black still not being able to talk or you haven't missed a meal line.
     
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    I think Jaun got the most laughs when I went to the theater. He found little Chiron hiding in abandoned house and he says "I'm gonna take the front door." His other funny lines are "he don't talk much but he sure can eat" "Teresa your boyfriend is here" "you know she got a crush on you" referring to little Chiron.
     
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