The Terror at Your Front Door

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    Recently a terror cell was uncovered, not due to preemptive investigations or wire taps but because one of its members snapped and killed other members. This crime lead authorities to discover propaganda, recruiting fliers, bomb making and radioactive materials in the member’s shared apartment that. This terror cell wasn’t in Europe or a country in the Middle East, this was in the United States. There is a good chance you may not know about it because it was not covered or received very little attention from the 24 hour cable news channels.

    To learn more about the terror cell and the possible reason/s as to why many in our free press didn’t cover this story, check out my commentary below.



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    Damn, Ock, as usual, you hit it and quit it with some deep assed topic that really needs a three hour podcast, but I know you gotta life lol. So, my usual tried to keep it short but still TLDR response:
    • We've known about extremist elements in the US military forever. They were there when I was in and still are. Their recent heyday was during the Clinton administration; the Bush and Obama eras saw them laying lower for a number of reasons, but not inactive. And there was a lot of legitimate intelligence and law enforcement chatter about possible connections and communications between Timothy McVeigh et al and overseas actors. Indeed, we've known about back channels between white nationalists and Arab/Persian based Islamic terrorist groups for some time. Thats why terrorism is such a permanent phenomenon, many of these groups have regular access to materials and info from current operatives from within the US and state governments. And having incompetent Republicans around means shit is walking out the back door like those five fingered specials off the delivery truck. Look at Michael Flynn's activities and multiply by a hundred or a thousand. But as you state, with America's police and military forces honeycombed with white nationalist and extremist elements, it makes it that much harder to go after them. Indeed, the whole Russian-Trump thing is just as much about white nationalist love for Putin and Russia becoming the focus of neo-Nazi ideology, as it is about all the non-race-based alt-right attitudes. That's also why, as a vet, I give a big fuck you to vet organizations like the VFW and American Legion. I know who their members are made up from...
    • You asked why mainstream media didn't cover this. There's probably a number of reasons. chiefly, there's the problem of the white liberal elite (and their negro imps). Their focus is so anti-Trump TO THE EXCLUSION of other real news, that reporting is as low-content for actual information seekers as Fox is for anything that isn't PRO-Trump (seen much follow up on Flint Michigan lately?). And despite people, especially black folk, thinking MSNBC et al are so liberal, they are still white elites, just a kinder, gentler privilege mindset. Indeed, I remember when the Oklahoma City bombing occurred, CNN and other networks immediately "blamed the black guy" ( as Paul Mooney would say) and said it was done by the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan (white liberal media was in full scared white mode at the time with the Million Man March being planned, the LA riot aftermath still being fresh, and OJ all over the airwaves). White America got a hard, Looking Glass lesson when it turned out to be a clean cut white male Persian Gulf War army veteran that blew up a federal government building. Whenever, it doesn't fit their elitist, establishment liberal narratives or goals, the mainstream media go after real, alternative news sources; which is why you saw Hillary's people and the white males of the Obama administration go after LEFT-WING media like Truthdig, Counterpunch, and Black Agenda Report as much as Fox News or RT Network. Mainstream media has always been the real fake news, and they know it. This is not a recent thing. Even as a little kid, I remember books from the Carter era (Jimmy not Jay-Z) talking about it, such as "News From Nowhere" by Edward Jay Epstein.
    • That's why it's important, in the Internet age, to shun traditional news sources and read outside "the mainstream"; and I'm not talking cognitive trash like Alex Jones or black hotep shit. It's actually good to go to non-media sources and go directly to experts as opposed to reporters, news organizations and journalists. For example, the Southern Poverty Law Center has monitored extremist behavior for decades and is a good source for the kind of information you cite as being uncovered. Organizations like Project Censored have offered analysis of uncovered news by the mainstream media for years, as well. When it comes to any topic, I avoid the traditional media and seek out subject matter experts, most of whom have their own blogs, websites; so, if I want to know about science issues, I read scientists' blogs, if I want to know economic trends, I read economists' sites, if I want to know a SCOTUS ruling meaning, I read attorneys' blogs. I think it was Mark Twain who said that people who don't read newspapers are uniformed but people who do read them them are misinformed, lol. Intelligent people need to make the effort of culling their own information feeds using RSS, phone app notifications, etc. Otherwise news stories like the one you cite will continue flying under the radar.
    We now return you to your regularly scheduled Instagram Thirst Traps and Romper pics. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain with the bomb making materials...lol
     
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    All of those crazy militias that existed 25 years ago are still around...if anything they are getting worse and I am surpised they have been relatively quiet. This is scary stuff.

    There is even white 'terrorist' privilige huh? smh.

    The crazy sites I check have taken a turn for the worse also. They were REALLY anti-muslim after Trump but they are now just anti-everything even more than before. More anti-black, more anti-gay, etc. I think a big attack of some sort is probably coming from some of these nuts. And because there are so many whites in the US, there are more of them than many probably realize and they manage to blend in better because they have so many connections with not only others like them but others who know they are messed up, but tolerate them, not knowing just how bad they are. They know they are racist and hate other groups of people with a passion, but they have no clue those people would consider using a radiological bomb in the very community they live in...because in so many other ways, they are just like 'them'.

    It is easier to suspect, to point the finger at, the person who is 'the other'.

    *but what can you do? It is so depressing it DOES make me want to go back to making fun of rompers and looking at porn.
     
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    I have think you may have misunderstood my intent...or more like I was writing like crap at 5 am lol. I was referring to media elites.

    Although I terrorist privilege would make a great MontyPython skit from Life of Brian.
     
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    I was not joking or being sarcastic. And it was less about any media.

    White people who are 'sketchy' are going to get more of a pass. If someone fits the profile of a possible terrorist and they are brown or muslim, and someone else fits the profile as well...but 'he is good ole' bubba who just likes that 'Hitler shit" and he won't really hurt anyone... his brother dated my sister and he is good people'...who is going to get more law enforcement attention???? Who are people more likely to report as 'suspicious'???

    This is just how a 'Timothy McVeigh' can happen.
     
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    Ok, got it! I thought it was my incoherent wake up writing lol
     
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    No there was interesting stuff in there....like this
    . Very true. And the media elites and the elites in general area problem. But there is also a big problem at the lowest levels=the local police, the local citizens, and the individual.

    It goes all the way down to there. While white mass shooters and serial killers are expected(by white people), white terrorists are just not on the radar(they were after Oklahoma City, which is part of the reason they all kept a lower profile...which now is possibly not so much the case.) They are craftier, and Trump's election is surely seen by some(as it is seen by many racists) that it may be time to come out of the closet and take some action. And white people are just not thinking along those lines IMO. And it will probably take a serious terror attack to change that attitude and way of thinking unfortunately.

    The enemy is outside, but it is also within, and it is not just black or brown either.
     
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