CA Podcast #42 – The “Black Lives Matter” Episode

By Cypher Avenue | Posted Sep 24 2015 | 12 Comments  

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In this podcast, hosts Octavius Williams and Nick Delmacy argue about #BlackLivesMatter, Black on Black Crime, Messy Gays Celebrating Gay Couples Getting Divorced, The Irony In Lesbians Booking Chris Brown for Black Gay Pride and Cypher Avenue’s New Social Networking Site, The Boards.

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  1. hannibal
    Hannibal | September 24th, 2015
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    Upon listening to this podcast I have concluded 2 things: 1. Ocky is my favorite trade 2. Nick is a black gay man that seems to not like black people or gay people very much.

    • Nick Delmacy
      Nick Delmacy | September 24th, 2015
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      hannibalUpon listening to this podcast I have concluded 2 things: 1. Ocky is my favorite trade 2. Nick is a black gay man that seems to not like black people or gay people very much.

  2. The Truth | September 26th, 2015
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    I was hoping ya’ll mentioned that the reason for high black on black crime is white racist don’t believe #blacklivesmatter.

    More often than not, black schools are with little resources and neglected, there’s hardly enough jobs in the heavily black sections of town, possible breadwinners of the family are disproportionately thrown in jail for longer periods and higher fines compared to whites, blacks are not getting hired (possession of harmless weed charges kills many black men chances) or are underemployed intentionally etc which leaves us with high crime … they have nothing to lose anyway, they already broke and feel like there’s no opportunity outside a $200 week job. Poverty is a symptom of crime, and again the reason why so many blacks are still in poverty is because of racism perpetuated by whites and the white power structure.

    #blacklivesmatter #blackisbeautiful #weshallovercome

  3. Dante | September 27th, 2015
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    Concerning the last Issue about black gay men. I PERSONALLY think that black gay men have some really deep rooted issues that need to be worked on. This comes from various internal and external factors of family and the black peoples approach to homosexuality. The most hate or push back i have gotten for my sexuality has been 98% from black people,why would i constantly stay or subject myself to hate and hostility from my own people, when there are others out there who do not have it in themselves to be so hateful? So I separate myself from it, for my own personal well being and growth.

  4. African King
    African King | September 27th, 2015
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    Loved the podcast! I have to agree with @Nick Delmacy on the Black Lives Matter viewpoint. Then I also have to agree with @Ocky Williams @ockydub on the Chris Brown fiasco. I don't believe he was booked at all.
    As for Funky Dineva and all those other people with an opinion, it is just sad man… Too sad. All the negativity is just sad.

    I can't wait for the bottoms podcast. That comes in 2 weeks right? We need a list of the guests!!!

  5. BlackguyExecutive
    BlackguyExecutive | September 30th, 2015
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    Interesting commentary gents. I think the Black Lives Matter movement is a victim of the echo-chamber media culture we live in today. From my vantage point, the Black Lives Matter movement is rooted in a long and storied history of radical organization, nonviolence tradition, and a whole lot of anger. Despite what the media culture likes to present, the BLM movement is heavily organize and principled in their position of bring about some sort of change/conversation/awareness. The system is broken, there is empirical data to show the how black lives are devalued. There is empirical evidence to show instances of institutional and structural racism. The prison industrial complex is very real (see, Michelle Alexander's The New Jim Crow). Those issues are completely separate from Black on Black violence/crime. That is true of all races in America as the data suggest, White on White Crime is comparable to that of Black on Black Crime, or Asian on Asian Crime or Hispanic on Hispanic Crime. All these little data point all make sense but are not part of the narrative. Unfortunately the opponents to the BLM Movement are using these kind of data talking points to try and derail a movement that they are afraid of because of its radical organization.

  6. BlackguyExecutive
    BlackguyExecutive | September 30th, 2015
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    I will also write a longer form explanation about China because the protest there are not the same as the protest here and given our media soundbite culture, if you are interested I will write a longer form post breaking it down into more understandable bit.

    This is my bread and butter, and I literally nerd out on Foreign Relations all day long. Consider me the CA subject matter expert.

  7. SB3
    SB3 | October 1st, 2015
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    I gotta go w @ockydub on this one. Two diff issues completely. Just because lions battle over territory and females and to be the boss (kinda like hoodrat azz black mofos/gangs) it doesn't mean that ppl are ok w them being killed off, especially when they're not posing a threat to the hunter (cops). As for the lack of support for 'Eden', I can't say I'm surprised. Even w the ads and shouts from mainstream gay sites, the bottom line is that the target demo doesn't financially support. Hell, even in 2015, a lot of minorities think tipping isn't necessary, so why would you expect them to support art? It's like you guys said, why aren't gay ppl booking/supporting other gay artists. Same thing. Also, minority based projects go right over the mainstream gay community. Not even on a racist tip, it's just because they all ready have so many projects that tell their stories. Why would they care abt a black version of something they all ready have a few versions of?

  8. Discordant
    Discordant | October 2nd, 2015
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    I definitely think there's a difference between "black on black crime," which is problematic in and of itself as a signifier, and what the BLM movement stands for. Statistically, most crimes happen within the same ethnic groups because most ethnic groups live togethe (and also happen between people who know each other.) But what the BLM is talking about is the systematic devaluing of black lives by American society as a whole. My biggest issue is that the media does a poor job of giving members of the movement who are able to actually articulate what it stands for the platform they need so the story becomes about a bunch of angry black radicals who hate cops, America,, and white people.

    As for Eden's Garden, it's so shameful that we don't support our own when it it comes to artistic expression. Then we complain that we aren't getting the quality representation we desire. But we'll support Chris Brown even though he's clearly got enough anger issues to make him dangerous to others around him. I'm at a loss for how to fix it though.

  9. BlackguyExecutive
    BlackguyExecutive | October 3rd, 2015
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    Discordant

    I definitely think there's a difference between "black on black crime," which is problematic in and of itself as a signifier, and what the BLM movement stands for. Statistically, most crimes happen within the same ethnic groups because most ethnic groups live togethe (and also happen between people who know each other.) But what the BLM is talking about is the systematic devaluing of black lives by American society as a whole. My biggest issue is that the media does a poor job of giving members of the movement who are able to actually articulate what it stands for the platform they need so the story becomes about a bunch of angry black radicals who hate cops, America,, and white people.

    As for Eden's Garden, it's so shameful that we don't support our own when it it comes to artistic expression. Then we complain that we aren't getting the quality representation we desire. But we'll support Chris Brown even though he's clearly got enough anger issues to make him dangerous to others around him. I'm at a loss for how to fix it though.

    I 150% agree. What gets lost is that there is a network of highly organized and trained activists that make the the BLM movement. These are not your run of the mill protesters. These people are organized and trained. They are radical but in the capital R kind of way.

  10. Ishmal
    Ishmal | October 5th, 2015
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    I think that people, me included, have an issue with that argument because the average person does not have the same duty as a civilian. A police officer is suppose to "protect and serve", the average person does not have that duty. True black on black violence is a major issue but that's like comparing apples to oranges. Chris Brown I don't think is homophobic. I think he is hot headed and like most hot headed people when he gets mad he will say some stuff that's not pc. Plus something about this situation doesn't add up.

  11. ctforbes
    ctforbes | October 6th, 2015
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    @BlackguyExecutive thanks for saying everything that was on my mind!




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