Dad Boxes His 17 yr old Son for Being Disobedient

By OckyDub | Posted Apr 28 2016 | 27 Comments  

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A father decides to discipline his son for walking out of class and leaving school early without permission. So far no problem right? Well dad decides to video tape himself disciplining his son and upload it to social media to show how real men should discipline their sons.

He sets up the camera and tell his son to get the boxing gloves. He then proceeds to punch the shit outta lil dude. Battered and bloodied he then make his son apologize on camera to his teacher for “cuttin up and walking out of the class.” Take a look below.

https://www.facebook.com/253882354789813/videos/593823700795675/

Here is my problem. Social media, wanting to go viral and be internet famous is helping society destroy itself faster. Why did this need to be shared with the world? This father could now possibly get arrested for child abuse and then have to spend money for lawyers, court costs, etc. that could be used on his household and family. Why put yourself and your family in a possible financial burden?

I do like the concept but the delivery here is horrible. This should’ve been done outside (blood all over the carpet). Pops should have let his son get some punches in for sportsmanship. More importantly why be so rough? Dad outweighs his son by like 150 pounds, is taller and has a longer reach.

So far there has been some who call this abuse but some folks are championing this dad on social media as being a responsible dad and loving his son. I didn’t see in the video him hugging his son nor telling his son he loved him. Also the point that is being missed here is that if the way he disciplines his son is the correct way…why is his son acting out in school and being disrespectful to teachers in the first place?

The kid is now publicly embarrassed and I’m sure will face some teasing from kids at school and in the neighborhood. How is this advancing or empowering the son? This just doesn’t sit well with me.

What are your thoughts. Is this discipline or abuse?

 


UPDATE

The original video was deemed to graphic for Youtube…no really. But here is the update.

Dad charged, teen removed from home after boxing video post on Facebook

 

 

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  1. alton
    alton | April 28th, 2016
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    None of my business how this dude raises his kid but….my dad used to do something very similar to me when I was much, much younger, and this more than likely is gonna cause this lil dude to be a angry ass muhf#$ka that more than likely will resort to violence to resolve issues. But again….this ain't none of my business….

  2. mojoreece
    mojoreece | April 28th, 2016
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    After a curtain age I dont really agree with spanking/hitting your kids. Studies show that it actually does the opposite of the parents intended purpose. It also makes kids use getting hit/spanked and violence. The purpose of discipline is to get the kid to learn their lesson and want to do the right thing on their own. Discipline should not be about just scaring them into doing what you think is right. But Im not a parent so……

  3. itsumoconfused
    itsumoconfused | April 28th, 2016
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    What was the point of this whole thing again?

  4. ColumbusGuy
    ColumbusGuy | April 28th, 2016
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    I am not a parent but I will go ahead and say that the dad should be in jail. You don't beat the f**k out of your 17 year old kid like this. If it comes to that you need as much help as the kid does, and probably are a shytty parent and have contributed to the problem in the first place.

    I don't know which is worse, forcing the kid to fight his own parent and the parent beating the bloody shyt out of his own son, or being so f**king stupid that you upload the shyt online for the world to see you committing this despicable criminal act! Damn social media seems to make people stupid as hell – I wonder if he did this just so he could upload it?

    This is not discipline-'discipline' should never have the possibility of criminal charges involved.

    Damn, I guess he could have forced his son to sit in a hot car on a sunny 90 degree day for 5 hours with the windows up and no water as 'discipline' also? Also few if any have actual died from an old fashioned spanking/ass whipping with a belt. Boxers die sometimes. And they are trained in what they do. How many times have you seem where somebody died in a bar fight cause they got punched, fell, and hit their head and then died? I have seen that more than a few times actually.

    *and I hate myself for finding the asshole dad….to be hot as hell. smdh.

  5. itsumoconfused
    itsumoconfused | April 28th, 2016
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    ColumbusGuyI am not a parent but I will go ahead and say that the dad should be in jail. You don't beat the f**k out of your 17 year old kid like this. If it comes to that you need as much help as the kid does, and probably are a shytty parent and have contributed to the problem in the first place.

    This is not discipline-'discipline' should never have the possibility of criminal charges involved.

    In teaching we have something called logical consequences. I think the same exact thing would exist in parenting. This was not a logical consequence by any stretch of the imagination.

  6. ColumbusGuy
    ColumbusGuy | April 28th, 2016
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    I agree. A logical consequence to leaving a classroom is not 'getting a bloody beatdown' from your own parent. The kid did not even do anything violent or remotely violent, like threatening someone. So why a violent bloody response? It does not follow at all and is a huge leap in any sequence of consequences.

  7. BlackguyExecutive
    BlackguyExecutive | April 28th, 2016
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    Is this some kind of exercise in one's own vanity? I never really understood why parents think that publicly shaming their children is going to net some sort of positive result. Secondly, I don't understand why violence has to be the answer when we do know that providing actual attention and affording value to youth is much more effective in producing the outcomes we seek. Beating down your son only proves that you can beat down your teenage son. This shyt is f**king stupid.

  8. TheDarkness
    TheDarkness | April 28th, 2016
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    When I was 16, my Dad gave me an "grown-man, azz-whuppin" very much like the one in the video. I never, ever forgot it. In fact, if I dwell on it too much, I get angry all over again. Made me a very, very angry teen who tended to act out on the smallest of slights–and eventually resulted in me running away and being homeless for 2 years prior to going to college (thanfully!) You know how they say you should forgive, but never forget? Well, I eventually forgave my Dad, but I never forgot that azz-whuppin'. And for the next 10-15 years, I had it in my mind that if that Mutha F*cka ever puts his hands on me now that I'm grown, I'm gon' beat the Sh*t outta him! That undisclosed feeling of revenge remained inside me until he became old, and I entered my 30's. The point? That kid will probably never forget that beating and the public shaming. And some day–if Dad comes at him the wrong way–there may be a chance for his day or reckoning. Hopefully, like in my situation, that won't happen….

  9. @yahoo.com
    @yahoo.com | April 28th, 2016
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    I am repulsed by this video. First off – let's state the obvious. This is abuse. Why? Because the father has a significant advantage in weight, skill, height, etc. He knew this would be an ass whopping rather than a fight. HE said it "I am going to give him extra." I do not see why people are cheering his efforts. This is child abuse / domestic violence.

    The sad thing is this is probably how he was raised and thinks it is okay. You only know what you've been exposed to. If I had to commend the father on one thing, it would be that he seems to care about his child's education. With that being said, the compliments stop there.

    This angered me. A lot. And, I think the father should be charged with something. Why? The kid was defenseless. It was either this or the father would have beat him to a bloody pulp without the ability for him to defend himself. The kid chose the fight. This kid will never live this down and I agree with a lot of the comments made by others in this group – he will forever be scarred. Kids can be brutal and relentless in teasing others kids. There is no place he can hide from this shame. The father should be held accountable for his actions. This was totally unnecessary.

  10. Tyroc
    Tyroc | April 28th, 2016
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    I agree with Ocky in that I don't have a problem with his intent and the physical displine even at that age, some kids do need hands laid on them and some don't.
    This though crossed over that fine line of disipline and abuse.
    Private disciplinary matters should stay private. If his father took him in the back and whooped his a$$ a little and then had a heart to heart about it, I wouldn't think twice about the actions, in fact I'd applaud that.
    This though seems more ego driven than for the genuine concern for his kids future.
    One of the most important life lessons to pass on to your kids is that actions have consequences and this dude didn't seem to grasp the irony of his own actions vs his kids.

  11. Purple_Is_Wack
    Purple_Is_Wack | April 28th, 2016
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    When the father is a bully, the children can become bullies or can end up emulating the bullies, Unfortunately the latter was the case and it f**ked up my sexual relationships with men. I am sure the father in the video was physically abused by his father. I could only watch half of the video because I was so traumatized, and how one can even question whether this is discipline or abuse is shocking.

  12. Sean
    Sean | April 29th, 2016
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    altonNone of my business how this dude raises his kid but….my dad used to do something very similar to me when I was much, much younger, and this more than likely is gonna cause this lil dude to be a angry ass muhf#$ka that more than likely will resort to violence to resolve issues. But again….this ain't none of my business….

    Sorry bro, Ima have to pull my victim card on you for this one.

    I was psychologically/emotionally abused as a kid by my dad, often in the presence his friends. Your response–and that meme–reminds me of all them fuckers who just sat on their asses, drank their 40s and didn't say shyt, when shyt was needlessly hittin the fan. lol. They may have felt it wasn't their place or their business to say or do anything, but it would have given me comfort, at least in that moment, if they would have made it their business and said something if they're gonna sit there and watch it all unfold.

    Had I not had people in my life to come to my rescue, so to speak, there's no doubt I probably would have carried anger against not only my dad and his friends, but the world. And who knows, at some point in time, in my rampage against any and everyone because, hell, that's all I know how to be, I come across you or someone in your family and, because I couldn't control my anger…you get where I'm going with this…you already called it…resorting to violence to solve issues.

    Generally speaking, it's not people's business what goes on in other people's lives, but when what goes on behind closed doors has the potential to affect the safety of not only those within those doors, but outside, it becomes everyone's business. Frankly speaking, that's why we got public health centers. Lol.

    I'm not saying everyone needs to be outraged and become an activist, but at the least, our perspective should be of concern for the safety and well-being of kids and society, in general. In other words, give a f**k. Lol.

    Btw, the headline, screenshot and story alone was enough for me. I didn't bother to add to the poster's clicks and fuel the hype by watching this.

    <Climbs off high horse, looks over shoulder and heads to the Locker Room.>
    reallynow

  13. derrick-gordon-12327
    derrick-gordon-12327 | April 29th, 2016
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    I'm pro smakings and all that shyt, even though I dont want to be around when it happens. I just find it questionable, when the parent acts like they are enjoying the beatings.
    But when it comes to a kid his age, i feel there could have been an alternative way in embarrassing the kid, or make him learn his lesson. But then again, im not a parent, dont want to be, so what the hell do i know. Just make sure when your son ends up taking his anger out on something, that he aint around me, because i'm not having that shyt. AND HE WILL HURT OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THIS.

  14. OckyDub
    Ockydub | April 30th, 2016
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    UPDATE

    The original video was deemed to graphic for Youtube…no really. But here is the update.

    Dad charged, teen removed from home after boxing video post on Facebook

    Dad charged, teen removed from home after boxing video post on Facebook

    On Friday afternoon, FOX 5 reporter Alexandra Limon reported Sellers' son has been removed from this father's house while the investigation continues.

    Sellers turned himself in to police in Prince William County early Friday morning. He faces charges including domestic assault and battery. He was released from jail Friday on $5,000 unsecured bond. On Thursday night, Sellers told FOX 5 if given the chance to give his opinion, his son would say he didn't want him to be punished for making the video.

  15. Dante
    Dante | April 30th, 2016
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    BlackguyExecutive

    Is this some kind of exercise in one's own vanity? I never really understood why parents think that publicly shaming their children is going to net some sort of positive result. Secondly, I don't understand why violence has to be the answer when we do know that providing actual attention and affording value to youth is much more effective in producing the outcomes we seek. Beating down your son only proves that you can beat down your teenage son. This shyt is f**king stupid.

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    BINGO!

  16. OhSheit
    OhSheit | April 30th, 2016
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    SO he basically just f**ked his kids head up for life, sold him to CPS like a slave, and they're gonna feed him to a street gang and/or jail a year later. All of that just for cutting class? :childplease:

  17. DreG
    DreG | April 30th, 2016
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    The punishment outwieghed the offense.This is a tactic for a problem/at-risk kid who's into criminal activity maybe,to show them how merciless law enforcement will be.A kid his age who's goofing off at school should lose privledges or his phone or something along those lines. Some guys go too far with the "teaching him to be a man thing" and reveal themselves for the macho a_sholes they really are.

  18. DreG
    DreG | April 30th, 2016
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    Sean

    Btw, the headline, screenshot and story alone was enough for me. I didn't bother to add to the poster's clicks and fuel the hype by watching this.

    Same here.When violence goes viral,I try not to add to viewcount.

  19. Patrick
    Patrick | April 30th, 2016
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    This is why I believe it's time to find better way to punish children than putting your hands on them and physically disciplining them. Seriously, this type of stuff causes mental issues later in life. You think you are only bruising their body but it also affects the mind to a degree that you won't even realize it til it's too late. We might think of the whole "that's how I was raised" or "that's the only way to get the child to listen" but there has to be so ring else.

    If you want to be real about it. That's what happened in slave days. Blacks were physically abused to discipline them. Yet,our culture thinks it okay. Or maybe it's just me who thinks about it that way.

  20. Tyroc
    Tyroc | May 1st, 2016
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    Patrick

    If you want to be real about it. That's what happened in slave days. Blacks were physically abused to discipline them. Yet,our culture thinks it okay. Or maybe it's just me who thinks about it that way.

    People tend to forget and take for granted that in a lot of areas in this country not too long ago, black parents had to be tougher and more hands on with discipline towards their children out of fear for any minor infraction could have serious and long ranging consequences toward the child and or family members.
    That ignored fact has led to a lot of "that's how I was raised" attitudes being passed down generation to generation.
    Consider a little over 50 yrs ago that something we've probably all witnessed like a child throwing a tantrum, a black parent would have to correct immediately and by any means necessary.

  21. Jai | May 2nd, 2016
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    This really is a violent society that behaves like a pack of wildebeest.

    You can't say this isnt your business because he made it visible to everyone online to see.

    Im not the one to say its not my business how someone raises their child because it is. He will contribute to society either positively or negatively and yes that does affect me.

    Why can't people just sit down & talk to their children. If they act up, take their privileges and if it continues, lay down your hand…but boxing your son.

    Thr generational curse of foolishness will never faultier anytime soon I see. SMH.

    Im telling you these types of people, whether they be black, white, asian or whatever need to be locked up.

  22. BlackguyExecutive
    BlackguyExecutive | May 2nd, 2016
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    OhSheitSO he basically just f**ked his kids head up for life, sold him to CPS like a slave, and they're gonna feed him to a street gang and/or jail a year later. All of that just for cutting class? :childplease:

    All too often people forego the unintended consequences of their actions100dap:ufdup:.

  23. BlackguyExecutive
    BlackguyExecutive | May 2nd, 2016
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    TyrocPeople tend to forget and take for granted that in a lot of areas in this country not too long ago, black parents had to be tougher and more hands on with discipline towards their children out of fear for any minor infraction could have serious and long ranging consequences toward the child and or family members.
    That ignored fact has led to a lot of "that's how I was raised" attitudes being passed down generation to generation.
    Consider a little over 50 yrs ago that something we've probably all witnessed like a child throwing a tantrum, a black parent would have to correct immediately and by any means necessary.

    I get the sentiments of the point you are making. Corporal Punishment was a thing when my mother who is in her early 50s experienced when she was in school. Sure, there is a systemic history of violence against black people in America and around the world for that matter but there is one thing we do know. There is a difference between discipline and abuse. Our society generally agrees that the punishment should be proportional with the offense (I know I opened by self up to a criminal justice system argument here, so I am acknowledging a brief fallacy in my argument). I think it is too simple to offer a cover because "that how I was raised." I think in large part, it is a breakdown in parenting, these kinds of issue don't happen overnight its gradual due to poor parenting and the inability to adequately support their children, economically, socially, emotionally, etc.

    Beating down your kid because he asking for candy in store is senseless. Kids like candy. Giving your kid a reason why he can't have candy is a much better option but it is not as efficient of whooping that ass, publicly, and with aggression that is disproportionate to the act of wanting candy.

  24. Tyroc
    Tyroc | May 2nd, 2016
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    BlackguyExecutiveThere is a difference between discipline and abuse. Our society generally agrees that the punishment should be proportional with the offense

    I agree with wholeheartedly on this point, that was indeed abuse.
    I had no problem with the idea of him putting the gloves on and boxing with his kid and getting in a few good shots to teach him a lesson but he beat that kid like a thief
    Some men are just meant to be sperm donors and not all are cut out to be fathers.

  25. SwagJack
    SwagJack | May 6th, 2016
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    Corporal punishment has very different connotations drawn along racial lines. Black folks tend to discipline their children for reasons that date back to slavery. So the logic is, "I'll beat the shyt out of you because when white folks get a hold of you for exhibiting this behavior, they'll do this and much worse." I know dudes that have told me their pops used to do the same thing with them that this dude in the video did with his son. Getting beat with a belt was for boys. Boxing was for men. It was rationalized as both punishment-as-lesson and self defense instruction. I'm on the fence and I understand both arguments, as it pertains to public discussion around this video. But I find it very telling that a society that praises the blood sport of pugilism (especially black men – dating back to the practice of the Battle Royale) and turns a blind eye to unarmed black boys/ men (and girls/ women) being shot down by law enforcement but lobbies to lock up this father and remove the son from the home. Couple that with the black mother from Baltimore who was captured by news cameras physically disciplining her son in public when she saw him with a group of his contemporaries participating in the Baltimore uprising last year. The public heaped a ton of accolades on her. But in any other context, Child Protective Services would have been called. I can't fully wrap my mind around the idiosyncrasies. But then again, ain't that America?

  26. bpaisle
    bpaisle | May 6th, 2016
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    This might have been a little extreme, I think. He could have done this without putting it all over social media. It would have had the same effect. The punishment doesn't even fit the crime. Truthfully when I got whoopings and stuff, I would just get up and go about my business afterwards. The worse punishment was taking my car and tech away.




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