Two Years Later…The Black Gay Bad Boys Still Changing the Game

By Cypher Avenue | Posted Aug 27 2013 | 28 Comments  

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• CYPHER AVENUE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS •

We’re Two Years Old! Yeah, our second birthday or anniversary (or whatever you want to call it) passed this weekend on August 24th! Well…Technically Cypher Avenue is only a month and a half old, but we’re including the time spent on our previous site, Discreet City, since most of its’ old content was migrated to this site as well. Whatever, yo! We’re Two Years Old!

This is no big deal to some of you but to us its kind of major because, two years ago, we had NO DESIRE to be gay advocates, representatives or media personalities when we first started blogging. Hell, we still don’t, to be honest. We just saw a void that needed to be filled and stepped up to the challenge. Who knew that some people would feel threatened by that action. But like they say, “you don’t enact change without ruffling a few feathers.”

Either way, few can deny that Cypher Avenue/Discreet City definitely made its presence known and is now a solid and necessary fixture in the gay community. Not only is this one of the few highly trafficked websites that consistently shines light on gay artists of color and their work, we’re also one of the few that tackles taboo/controversial issues head-on from unique points of views. All without besieging our readers with gay porn imagery and advertising. Don’t get us wrong, we’re not against pornography, we just think there’s a time and place for everything.

We’re also one of the few black gay websites not afraid to say words like “Class”, “Self Respect” and “Your Web Series Sucks.” We keep it real. Our word is bond. Anyone that visits our site daily can read the tea leaves and deduce that underneath our biting criticism and satirical snark is a desire for gay men of color (no matter the shape, size, sexual role or gender mannerisms) to strive to do better. This includes us, which is evident from the bump in quality from the previous site to the current.

We may have opinions that people disagree with but we always welcome dialogue about the topics in our comments section. We take pride that our site can feature substantive debates on serious (an not-so-serious) issues without devolving into petty, messy name calling. This is how adult men should communicate with one another.

This is a reason why our comments section is for “members only.” We don’t want random trolling strangers coming into our discussions just to shake things up and never return again.

Cypher Avenue is a fraternity. Its easy to join and its open to all, but there are still certain expectations of decorum once you get here. Having said that, Nick Delmacy and Ocky Williams contradictorily live by the motto: “Do what I say, not as I do.”

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WORDS FROM NICK DELMACY:

TO THE SUPPORTERS:

Big thanks to the dudes out there that have been riding with us since the rough early days when we were still figuring out exactly what we were doing or what kind of site we were trying to be. Many of you O.G.s are still riding with us and we appreciate the support. Same goes for the New Bucks that maybe discovered us at the tail end of Discreet City or for the first time here on Cypher Avenue. Its great to have such a wide range of people contributing to the site and adding to the discussions.

No one can deny that our site pushes people to not only think critically on how they view seemingly mundane and routine issues and topics. We also try push gay men of color to step up their lives when it comes to creativity, finances, presentation, marketing, education, dating, physical fitness and mental health.

This is not your gay house mother’s favorite website featuring Ru-Paul news, Terry McMillan worship, James Baldwin quotes, Gospel Music updates and Gay Pride Event Flyers…No No No, Cypher Avenue is collectively bringing “Gay” into the new millennium with Fitted Caps, a backpack full of comic books, a glass of vodka and a stack of Beat CD’s in tow!

The original goal for starting the blog was to speak specifically to and for masculine Gay men of color like us and show the masses that there are many gay men out there that are not just into Beyonce gossip, Gay Clubs and Sex.

We quickly learned that even non-masculine gay men were interested and open to hearing what we had to say. So even if you ARE heavily into those aforementioned things, at the least we hope to continue to fill the gaps of your varied interests left by mainstream gay media. Thanks for keeping us going! Here’s to another year!

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TO THE REST:

There’s no other website like ours. That’s not said to brag (well, not entirely). I actually say it to point out that if diversity and tolerance is such a big deal for us when speaking to heteros, why is that not the case when applied to the gay community itself?

Also, we all may be gay but there are differences between many masculine gay men and effeminate gay men regarding their lifestyles/interests. Deal with it. There are differences between many white gay men and gay men or color regarding their lifestyles/interests. Deal with it. Occasionally, we like to discuss topics under those umbrellas on the website. For Cypher Avenue to not even speak on those differences, to put our heads in the sand, is unrealistic and delusional. That’s like a Men’s Magazine never being allowed to discuss the differences between men and women.

We have been and always will be a site who examines life from a masculine gay point of view. Whether privileged or not, that is how we specifically identify as gay men. If it is totally fine for some gay men to identify on the feminine side, it is equally okay for some men to identify on the masculine side…and even be proud of that.

If a website like Cypher Avenue existed when I was a confused 16-year-old or a closeted 20-year-old masculine gay college student living in Atlanta, I likely would have become more comfortable with my sexuality sooner knowing there were gay men out there with similar interests and experiences as me. We’re helping a lot of brothers out there, so we’re here to stay!

“They tried to shut us down ’bout a year ago but we still in this bitch!” – B.o.B

TO OCTAVIUS WILLIAMS:

Once again, thanks for putting so much time, effort and energy into Cypher Avenue. I say that not only as a close friend and business partner, but really just as a fan of the site itself. This is def a place I would have welcomed if I was not also a founder of it…and a large part of that draw is due to your contributions. The behind-the-scenes discussions (and heated debates) we have about the direction of Cypher Avenue are as vital as building the site itself. We’ve come a long way not only as bloggers but also as friends. SALUTE!

Boyz

 

WORDS FROM OCKY WILLIAMS:

Are my eyes too big for my stomach? Is my lavishness visionary ambitions only hoop dreams from a black gay dude who wants better? Perhaps. I do know I want Cypher Ave to be a mecca; a crown jewel on the web. I want Cypher Ave to be the website that you go to first when you get on the internet. I want us to be The Authority, The Go to Guys, The Dons and The Chiefs In Charge when it comes to gay male content for men of color. 

TO NICHOLAS DELMACY
 
When we started Discreet City, our “visions” were a little different but the quality of the website was solid. As we began to evolve, we spoke into existence Cypher Avenue…but what about the new template, the theme, the foundation, and the infrastructure? You built this place. You built Cypher Avenue from the ground up, literally. Yes I know I may have planted the seeds of what would be the next steps in our evolution; however all the mechanics, inner workings, infrastructure of all things that are Cypher Ave are all because of you…An amazing feat for one dude! There is nobody else I would whether be on this journey with and your friendship continues to be an honor.
 
TO THE SUPPORTERS:
 
I want Cypher Ave to be a gathering of all facets of our fraternity. Let’s strive to laugh, debate, cry, be entertained, gain wealth, knowledge, insight, build and grow. I want members to be empowered, have a voice and be heard. I want members to plant their own seeds in this online forest. I want each member of the Cypher Ave squad to be the MVP (Most Valued Participant). I want members to take pride in the community and know without you there will be no “us”.
 
So buckle up because we are just beginning the ride! 

 

 

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Cypher Avenue

Cypher Avenue is a direct response to the lack of a single website on the Internet catering to gay/bisexual men that love hip hop, pop culture, video games, sci-fi and mature, open minded conversations. Topics ranging from sex, sports, movies, new tech, science, fashion, comic books, politics, working out, hip hop, booze, television, cars, the outdoors, geek stuff, dating, and relationships; you name it, we have it.

   
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28 Comments Feel Free To Join The Cypher.

  1. hannibal
    Hannibal | August 27th, 2013
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    Congrats on two years. I’ve laughed, I’ve rolled my eyes, I’ve been enlightened on some things.

    • Ocky Williams | August 28th, 2013
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      Ha…yah you mos def be getting your eye roll on.

  2. ptseti | August 27th, 2013
    +2

    I guess I am from the ‘new bucks’ group. You are right-there aren’t may sites like this one if at all in the LGBT community and this is a BIG plus. I enjoy the site and I have promoted it to my friends and I hope they have at least liked the FB page.

    But honestly as we say in Jamaica , this site TUN UP the issues on everything that we care about – we talk, we joke , we reflect, we disagree and we agree. That’s how life should be. People listening and communicating. Learning and educating. Meeting and greeting . From the day you responded to me personally on FB @ Nick I knew this was a site with a difference because it started from you , it started from the TOP.

    So cheers to 2 years. 2 years seems like 10 in the web business. Yes there are features and plans yet to be explored or developed but with our support and interest Cypher Avenue will become a prime piece of web real estate where everyone who comes to visit or live on the Avenue will feel welcomed, empowered and included in our special community called the LGBT community.

    Hip Hip, hurray! Well done guys!

    • Nick Delmacy | August 27th, 2013
      +1

      Thanks a lot bro, you already know how much time and effort goes into this but people like you def make it worthwhile!

  3. ControlledXaos
    Black Pegasus | August 27th, 2013
    +1

    Each time I click on this site I’m filled with pride. I discovered you guys many months ago, and you have filled a void that has existed for quite some time. I look forward to the many insightful debates and discussions along with the laughter and tears. 🙂

    • Nick Delmacy | August 27th, 2013
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      No doubt homie! Yeah you been riding with us for a lil minute, thanks for the long time support!

  4. Wes | August 27th, 2013
    +1

    WOW~CONGRATULATIONS GUYS!!!!!! YOU’RE DOING SOME GOOD STUFF OVER HERE!
    MUCH SUCCESS IN ALL YOU DO!!!!!

    • Nick Delmacy | August 27th, 2013
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      All caps though! LOL lets me know you really mean it! LOL Thanks homie!

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  5. SB3000 | August 28th, 2013
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    Congrats guys! August 24th is my bday too..just sayin..lol

    Very glad I found this site, and Im happy to be a member of the frat.

  6. hannibal
    Hannibal | August 28th, 2013
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    *wipes tears* I remember my first experience with Cypher(Discreet City). One of my friends posted an article about dating masculine men I believe or something like that. Our collective eye roll was legendary. Most if not all of them were offended. Yet I came back anyway and stumbled onto the reviews. I haven’t looked back since. It’s like cyber Stockholm Syndrome. I’m currently catching up on all the podcasts and @nick makes profanity sound very eloquent lol.

    • Nick Delmacy | August 28th, 2013
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      Glad you could find something you connected with on the site. The “eyeroll” your online friends make when viewing our site is the “eyeroll” we make when viewing all of gay media. So I guess you now know how we feel, lol. And please believe, you’re not the only feminine or inbetween dude checking out the site. We welcome all. Thanks for adding to the community.

      • hannibal
        Hannibal | August 28th, 2013
        0

        I love how you added the “inbetween” in there lol. Thanks.

  7. Kasule | August 28th, 2013
    +1

    Congrats on two years!

    This site really offers something I’ve never seen elsewhere: the guts to be critical about gay culture, instead of always assuming everything wrong and disturbing is actually fine and healthy.

    Thanks for the badass platform for useful discourse – and including Yaphet Kotto on your “scifi stud” list haha. I must be in the right place!

    • Ocky Williams | August 28th, 2013
      0

      My man we are happy and over joyed you are here to support us. Thank you for being a member.

  8. J's Destiny | August 28th, 2013
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    I don’t remember how I came across this website. There are a multitude of ways I could have gotten here but hey that’s in the past now and you guys have been going for TWO YEARS STRONG!!! I am happy to have found you all because I have been trying for the past couple of years to fit into that mold of effeminate club going gay black men and it just wasn’t comfortable to me. Now with Discreet City Cypher Avenue, I am able to find my sanity and peace of mind that I was lying to myself trying to be something I am not. Don’t get me wrong I appreciate some of the “Fan/Stan” humor amongst the gays but rarely participate. I have one favorite artist who promotes positivity amongst all artists and their fans, so I follow her lead.

    Cypher Avenue creators, Nick and Ocky, thank you so much for pushing past the naysayers of yesteryears with their feminism talk and efforts to put all gay black men in the same box. You all have opened up a bazillion boxes for gay black men to be comfortable in their skin and how they approach certain issues. While there are things that I do disagree with on this site as far as whether something is masculine or not, I realize we are all different and have the right to express our differences. Thank you guys for also constantly promoting better quality in all that we as humans, more specifically black gay men, do. I have one small critiques for the overall site. Grammar, please have someone proof your posts to check it and…

    • Ocky Williams | August 28th, 2013
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      Wow. Thank you for the kind words and sentiments. As far as the critique, I feel you (but not to make excuses) I know I need to improve in this area. Many time I try to sneak in and write a post while at work or either late at night when I am getting ready for bed. Again no excuse but its a reason. Nick has been on me also about this. Anywho…thanks again for visiting.

    • Nick Delmacy | August 28th, 2013
      +1

      Thanks homie, yeah we’re working on the proofreading thing. It’d be way easier if we only did 4 paragraph “articles” like so many other gay websites. LOL.

  9. D.W. | August 28th, 2013
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    Congrats on the 2 year anniversary, wishing the site much success, hope u guys do the podcasts again, they were hilarious.

    • Ocky Williams | August 28th, 2013
      0

      Thank you for being a member. Yeh I think the podcast will be rolling back around soon.

  10. Gee Session-Smalls | August 28th, 2013
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    You guys are awesome. Keep it up the great work!

    (OMG I was just told my comment was too short and I needed to say something ‘useful’) – this is why I love you guys! LMAO

    • Nick Delmacy | August 28th, 2013
      0

      Thanks Gee, appreciate that!

  11. Dre G | August 28th, 2013
    0

    Glad you guys stuck with it!I came to DC in spring 2012 and have been back every day since then

  12. ControlledXaos
    Black Pegasus | August 28th, 2013
    0

    Here’s a question I have for @Nick and @Ockydub. If Don Lemon wanted to have you guys on CNN for an on camera interview to discuss the concept and message of Cypher Avenue, would you appear ON CAMERA for the interview??

    • Nick Delmacy | August 28th, 2013
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      Don Lemon? No thanks…You shoulda said Marc Lamont Hill on Huff Post Live, lol. #NoTakeBacks

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  13. thinker | August 28th, 2013
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    I just wanted to say to @ockydub and @nick Big props to your success! I just want to thank you for the work you do and let you know that I appreciate it so much. This journey has been a blast and I can’t wait to see what you do next. Much love!

  14. WIMSDC
    WIMSDC | August 28th, 2013
    0

    Here’s to the past two and the next twenty! Congratulations on a wonderful website

  15. questforknowledge
    quest for knowledge | August 29th, 2013
    +1

    Congrats to both of you guys!! Ever since I discovered this site last year I have been hooked and telling my other friends to check out your site. And they love it as well! It’s refreshing to see a gay site of this quality that is different from the rest. I’m just grateful for all the energy and effort you guys have put into this website, it really has paid off. For me personally ever since I discovered DC, you guys have helped me embrace more of who I am. I can only imagine the impact this site has had on on your other followers. I’m definitely looking forward to seeing more of your work as a cypheravenue member. Congrats again and I wish you nothing but continued success with the website.

  16. lemonnhead819 | October 12th, 2013
    +1

    I know that I’m late. Happy Belated 2 yr Anniversary. I’m a newbie too. I discovered your site when it was transitioning from Discreet City to Cypher Avenue. Keep up the good work and thought provoking content. It’s long overdue.




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