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  1. BlackguyExecutive

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    Hey Gents, this article came across my timeline. I am interested in your thoughts:
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    Every year, the conversation of Black Gay Pride comes up on my timeline and I literally get myself prepared for the comments, videos, memes, and jokes. My favorite of all time is the “Make sure y’all pay y’all rent before y’all head to Pride.”

    This weekend was Sizzle Miami & D.C Pride and both of these events are catered towards black gay men. These are spaces for black men to feel comfortable with no judgment away from individuals who take to social media every year, depressed, oppressed and stressed out that people are spending money on what they consider fun.

    It’s a never-ending cycle tired jokes about everything from Walgreen’s running out of fleet to everyone attending is going to come back with an incurable STD. If you heard one joke, you’ve heard them all. You would think that half of the ones who made these jokes coins were at stake. No, the only thing at stake is their ego. The “I’m better than you because I don’t go to Pride” attitude. Gurl, let it go. Let it go. There is no minimum or maximum of gay activities that make you more or less gay. Only same-sex sexual activities make you homosexual.

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    Let’s not forget the fights… It doesn’t really matter if it was just 1 or 100–it’s all treated the same. Thousands of people gather for the events and all it takes is one fight video to surface, and then the girls have an excuse to say why they don’t participate. As if their credit jumps up 20 points. One fight broke out that is currently being shared all over social media and some of the kids are using it as a catalyst for not going to Pride events.



    The girls were throwing everything except gas money! Ish like this happens. With so many people, personalities and alcohol, some things are bound to happen. It doesn’t mean one group is lower than other. The level of internalized racism and self-hatred that some of us suffer from unfortunately has us thinking like this. As if only black events are ratchet and ghetto. If you’ve ever been to predominately white spaces, you will see fist fights and drugs that have not made their way into the black community yet.

    Before you post that bitter, wannabe elitist status or meme up, think to yourself: Is the problem Pride or is it my self-loathing personality? Pick a side, pick a side.

    Let these people live. If they don’t pay their rent and head to Pride, what does it cost you? There are people who are leasing $1,000 iPhones and asking for payment arrangements. If I do go and get my back blown out, how does it harm you? What’s the difference between me having sex at home or out of town? I might just be giving you time to have the boys that you can’t have while I’m out of town.

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    The STD, STI, HIV jokes have got to go. The CDC puts you in the same group as any other man who sleeps with men. They don’t highlight those who do and don’t go to Pride.

    If current HIV diagnoses rates persist, about 1 in 2 black men who have sex with men (MSM) and 1 in 4 Latino MSM in the United States will be diagnosed with HIV during their lifetime. (CDC)

    Let me know if you see where they say that about those who attend Sizzle, D.C. Pride or Atlanta Pride. Instead of shading the girls for doing something you’re doing, focus on ways to uplift each other. Instead of sharing the ONE fight video, share a video answering common questions about sexual health. Pride is a time where the majority of old friends who have moved and haven’t seen each other in a while catch up.

    A free space from judgmental looks from heterosexuals who don’t understand our culture but use it and abuse it. A time of celebrating some of the milestones we have made with being black gay men. Some are ones who were not comfortable with their sexuality until now. Artists, authors, poets, and content creators are in these spaces promoting things they love to do. Classes of all sorts are offered, from how to fight LGTB youth homelessness to better financial stability.

    I love my community; I just want us to understand that we’re all in this together. I know that’s a lot to ask for, but I hope we can all understand and appreciate one another
    A Message to Bitter Black Gays Dragging Pride - King Of Reads
     
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    -I'm laughing because the author was foolish enough to think a space and event FULL OF GAY PEOPLE would be judgement free.

    -I'm bitter because the author decided to publish a rant about non-heterosexual males and then refereed to them as "girls" while talking about "uplifting a community". This is like the NAACP uplifting the Black community by referring to them as "niggas" on their website.
     
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    That is exactly what caught my attention. I giggled a lot!! :franko1:
     
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    Those kinds of events make me uncomfy. So much shade and fist flying around. I went to Houston Splash a long time ago during my being exposed to "gay culture" phase. It's the only time I've ever been. Now a days all I really hear about is the pride sex or freaknik videos dropping. One thing I'd like to go to is something in Florida with the Blatinos. The videos make it look fun and I can wear beach clothes nd the men look nice. Ultimately, I don't think those events are for me though.

    Also, the whole girl thing annoys me. I know it shouldn't be a big deal and is slang but I hate it & get irrate if someone calls me girl or tries to slide it in..I hate it when females do it too if they think you are gay and they are "cool with you".
     
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    Some of that is true, but some...well..lol.

    I have never seen out and out 'brawls' at any events that were mainly white, or heard about 'brawls' being common. I love how to defend something black, they have to attack whites. Whites 'fight' and also 'have drugs that we have not even seen'. So that makes bad black gay behavior ok-because 'whites do it to' or' 'do something worse'? Maybe there are brawls at white events and I don't know about it? I have never seen it and have not seen white gays talking about it or complaining about all the 'fights' that ruin pride or gay events?

    Many are very mainstream and have corporate sponsors and a lot of security and such and people will usually get involved to break it up and not all stand there filming it. There are exceptions, but they are not renown for such behavior as far as I know.

    I don't know if 'brawling' is common or not at black gay events/parties. But again I do not think it is common at predominantly white ones.

    I don't know much about 'black gay events' so I don't judge. No reason to be holier-than-thou about these things though..let people do them as long as they are not shoving it down your throat.

    the 'gurl' stuff did bother a bit, but that is just how many gays are so meh.


    *Now I have seen ratchet-ass behavior(especially sexual behavior) among white gays of course. White people are the freakiest especially when they drink-everyone knows that! lol. And fights at bars, and smaller groups or parties or at after-bar events/restaurants etc. But the actual fights were broken up pretty quickly.
     
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    Now GWARL! Don't get those panties in a bunch just cause you are a hater hunty! Don't make me snatch you bald Miss Jai!
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    Ratchet is a rainbow coalition...

    I don't think it's a black/white thing or even a gay/straight thing, it's what organizers of large events tolerate and plan...or don't plan for. Remember our state's infamous Who concert and what happened from lack of organization? That was white and ratchet. Remember that black block party they USED to have at Ohio State back in the day? That was eventually black ratchet. I was one of the students that helped start it. The first couple ones we held were peaceful and cool. Then those of us who started it moved on, other people took over and it became a free for all where thugs statewide would descend on campus.

    The Million Man March went down without one fist fight. You can have an event, including gay ones, without drama, as long as mofos KNOW you gonna drop hammers...
     
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    All I was saying is that most of the white gay ones do not have this...I was speaking mainly about white gay events and there is little 'brawling' at these(that I know of)...and I mentioned security and planning. I think some of that is left over from when security was needed...to protect the gay participants. They used to be Pride marches(not parties) and plenty of hateful protesters attended. I don't know about the black ones(I stated such). Now the mainstream white gay stuff is corporate sponsored, mainstream and blah! lol. Not much fighting, just not enough Portapotties and too much littering.

    And you quoted the part of my post about small gatherings, not large events, and then talked about large events lol. But I agree, rachet is a state of mind. Also I never hear about people getting killed at any of these events, black gay or white gay.

    *Anyway white gays cannot 'brawl' because the black gheys (and black women!) will scream 'cultural appropriation!!!' LOL!! (I could not resist! forgive!).
     
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    I don't care, I don't care. I've been to Pride in Atl, NYC, San Fran, Miami, and Stl, some by choice and some by circumstance lol. There are differences. Some of it inherent to cultural experience and some of it just lack of resources/logistics.

    Black Pride in any city is a joke and is anything but pride. It's about stunting on these hoes and getting some dick/booty and don't let anybody tell you otherwise. This isn't to say that "white prides" (and I hate that catch-all term but you get the gist) aren't without their own debauchery but they host parades, park days, and all that shit. When's the last time you saw something like that at a black pride? Most of everything we do is done in the dark heavily laced with hedonism and borderline aggression.

    I love my black folks but we can't have shit. We're too busy on social media -sometimes- trying to bring each other up and champion the cause of the day just to get back around each other and let any ounce of solidarity dissolve almost instantly.

    I love, love, love my people both gay and straight but Black pride is just one of many symptoms of the composite Black experience. We're a hurt people. Until that changes, we won't.
     
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    ^^ To be fair many white 'pride' events are not what they used to be. There is more acceptance and the lack of dire urgency of AIDS killing everyone. Much of it is just like any holiday really...eat and drink and have fun. Just like other holidays(how many people actually did something related to deceased service members this past Memorial Day...and how many just drank and ate and all and enjoyed themselves?). Plus even back in the day after the March and all, the bars were packed and it was all about getting dick or ass lol. The bars and clubs were never ever as packed as they were on pride weekend.

    Does the black pride have any real support outside of black gays? Do white gays, black straights, corporations, etc. get involved or donate? When I was actually on a float in a parade waving a huge rainbow flag and throwing candy at the crowds lining the parade route here in Cbus about 15 years ago, I was shocked at the make-up of the crowd. So many were older, so many were older men and women with PFLAG(parents of gays)flags and banners, there were so many families with kids, etc.

    Maybe black pride just does not have the support it should have? ...and that support should be from more than just the black community as well. How long have their been black prides? The first one(any pride march) in Cbus was in 1981 and many of the couple hundred who participated had paper bags over their heads to keep from being identified. It took decades to grow and evolve. During the eighties there were hundreds and hundreds of religious protesters and there had to be heavy security. It evolved from that. Also the white gheys....the white gay elite...have always had more $$$$ and if they were not there themselves they made sure their money was involved.

    Maybe they just need more time, more money, more involvement and support from more people?
     
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    I don't think it's being bitter but moreso being jaded and cynical.

    With many people being around varied degrees of outness and comfort, it does seem that Pride events turn into just club hopping and sex. But for the small town dudes that don't have any other outlets, I can't blame them for having a few weekends of release from their normal lives. Also I know that that's not the majority of attendees but still.

    I figured now, gays may not be interested in seminars on hone ownership, adoption, surrogates, wealth building, health, domestic violence etc when they're go to these events.
     
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    "Ooooh they fvckin you up sis" LMAOOOOO :sabu: That video is straight comedy.
     
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    That part was funny tho. LoL
     
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    "-I'm laughing because the author was foolish enough to think a space and event FULL OF GAY PEOPLE would be judgement free."
    Yeah, this had me givin' the Gas Face LMAO!!!!
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    So nobody noticed Future at Sizzle?
     
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    Didn't they just add the brown and black into the rainbow flag somewhere? And this is what you get? Oh dears!
     
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    Well I understood what the author war talking about. He just simply want us black gays to treat each other better. It shouldn't be all about fighting or side-eyeing down someone else, or thinking that fleeting yourself will prevent you from catching a disease. Nothing wrong with wanting better for-oh wait Big Bang Theory is on!
     
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    It is a shame because this website is evidence. I probably needed to peruse this website more before joining because every thread is so negative. There are many damaged, bitter people on here who need to see a therapist to work out there issues.
     
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    *gasp* a troll!!! It's been AGES since we've had a troll! Welcome, and thank you for going through the trouble of joining our merry little cabal of derelicts, undesirables and frauds! I'm sure you'll fit right in!!!


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    ^^^this is how excited I am
     
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    Show me the message board/forum where people ONLY post positive threads/replies and NEVER discuss what they don't like about anything....I'll wait....

     
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    Where are the receipts?
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    Damn, I'm such an Oreo. How can I be black and gay and feminine, and not know anything of what this thread is talking about.

    The only thing I know is that Qaadir Howard gif. Ugh.
     
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