Approved PRIVATE THREADS: Do You Want Them?

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  1. Nick Delmacy

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    So while we don't mind the lurkers, I do feel that some threads should be reserved for active members only. For example, the Official Face Pic Thread might be better if hidden from randoms who visit the site from Google searches and don't even bother creating a profile, let alone commenting.

    I've been a member of other forums that have class tiers of access for members. Once a member reaches a certain class level, they have access to the private threads.

    So two questions for the Squad...

    1. Should we implement Private Threads not open to the public and Lurkers?

    2. If yes, what should be the minimum user class requirements? [Just For example: 100 Comments Made, 100 Daps Received and Must Have Been a Squad Member for 30 days.]
     
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    I would say yea about the private thread, just for certain ones such as the one you brought up about the Official Face Pics. I feel that's more for us then it is for lurkers.

    I wouldn't say class requirements per say. I'd say go cutthroat, if you want to view these threads you have be a member and participate.
     
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    Well, we can't personally watch every member's activity and participation. By creating user class requirements, the website will automate who gets access based on reaching certain goals. So if participation is the goal, a minimum comment count may be the answer. Going at least 100-200 comments would def make him/her an active participating member.
     
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    It would be wise for certain topics, and especially for picture threads of members. I belong to a forum that formed from another forum imploding in 2004. The picture thread in the new forum was ransacked by trolls and used in the most despicable ways possible. There is a private place there called 'After Hours' and you had to have a certain minimum of comments plus have two members already in the private area vouch for you in order to gain access. It has mostly worked.
    (also if two people vouched for someone and that person ended up being a troll or freaked out, the people who vouched for them got a temporary ban. Two weeks I think..so people were careful)
    In a way you have a form of this already with the activity that goes on in the Profile Posts area.

    That forum has a broad range of topics in both the public and private areas.

    The only drawback could be a decrease in posting in the 'public' area and a possible decline in quality also in that area that could dissuade lurkers from possibly joining. Might be a problem with a smaller forum and fewer posts/posters

    At the very least member pics should definitely be in a private section JMHO.
     
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    This idea has something to it. Maybe only leave certain advice or question-of-the-day type things open so newer participants can contriubute before being allowed to have access to things like Thirst Traps or Group Discussions,and the Face Pic Thread of course.I feel like those are the types of threads people who lurk or stop visiting probably stop by first .Perhaps this would add a higher feeling of safety for some when posting personal life stories and things of that nature.
     
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    If nothing else, the face pic thread should be private. There is really nothing gained from having it public, but there is a lot to lose. There is no need for lurkers to see that. Also I would never use a pic of myself as an avatar on an open forum-hell after being burned, I will not even post a pic of myself(trust me, you are not missing anything).
     
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    I definitely think face pic thread should be private and but I also think that the daps requirement should be in place too. You should be an active member to view the photos. And it may actually make a "safe space" for the more closeted by requiring daps or a 21 day membership clock. I don't think anyone is going to be setting their Google calendar so they can see our ugly mugs if that's all they care about.

    Also something like the more adult topics that are not explicit like the fetish thread should be private as well.
     
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    I think this would be great, actually. I am all for members-only threads or even limit how many threads you can view if you are a lurker.
     
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    I hate that we didn't think of this sooner. Live and learn. I will say I feel the face pic thread needs to be made private ASAP!

    I think the only people who should/can have access to it now are the people who participated in that particular thread (grand fathered in). I think this needs to be on lock down.
     
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    I guess that most of us feel that way. I think that the thought came to me when the face pic started. I notice when I look online to see "recent activity" that 50 percent are looking at the thirst traps and face pics. That could be bad for people who may not want their business out there but felt comfortable here.

    I think lurkers should be allowed to see only informative threads. Also, maybe only old ones and podcasts. The current signing to view the message board is good because that worked for me joining. I loved the old ones so much that it became intense. I must admit. But, that's just my input along with the great ones above
     
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    Uh, it's kind of too late for that, I've already been abducted. You guys are bad gay daddies and AK's mentors would cackle.
     
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    My 2cents - I would feel more comfortable posting if certain topics were private.
     
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    I just want to clarify on what I posted.

    On most forums, posting pics is not a problem. The problem is that if it does become a problem, it can be a nasty problem. It is not fun to have your pic taken, researched, personal info found out, and to have it attached to Craigslist ads etc. Or people online with profiles pretending to be you with your pic(and somehow having your personal info linked as if they had it available 'by accident' when it is no damn accident) causing havoc.

    You have to look at your forum and who might be attracted to it.

    -Is this forum unpopular with certain people or groups? ( I have seen online that yeah, this forum has been attacked)

    -Who are the unhappy people? Gays. Do I need to go on with how much trouble some gays can be?



    Having stuff like this happen to me and having seen it happen to others, I am just very wary.
     
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    @Nick Delmacy

    1. I do think you guys should make it private for members only. It could only help with growing our membership.

    2. On the other hand I'm not sure about limiting user class requirements.
     
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    1. I agree. I feel those that choose to lurk are lurking for a reason and their access to threads that are more intended for us that share things like our image private info etc should be limited.

    2. I do believe there should be some requirement met before having access to the more premium content because those that are joining just to lurk again verses those that are joining to finally become active members will be made more obvious. What those requirements should be I'm not certain. Maybe like you said daps comments days a member are great options.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback, fellas. Discussing all this with @ockydub now. Making decisions tonight.
     
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    1. Private threads would be nice. I think it'll give some members that are a bit reluctant (I guess that would be the word) a chance to feel more comfortable posting or more comfortable sharing experiences.

    2. I would go for daps (maybe like 20-30?)....with comments they could just post several 1 word replies and meet the requirement. And with days, they could just chill and come back whenever the time is up.
     
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    Can you give an example? This will help us.
     
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    I can support restrictions based on participation or a time restricted approach. I am not someone who will rarely comment unless I feel that I have something useful to contribute to the conversation. Accordingly, I think that a requirement on the number of comments or daps received penalizes those of us who are engaged, but are not as likely to comment. With that being said, I think that face pic threads or posts revealing some level of personal information can (and should) have a higher threshold for participation. JMHOP
     
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    Typo correction:
     
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    I kind of thought you would let the board know what you decided and what you would implement....before you actually implemented it...with some sort of explanation as to the new rules?...as I see that something has already been implemented. ?

    Maybe my uplate nightowl self just needs to wait until tomorrow?
     
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    Still working on it to see if it will even be possible. We'll have an official update blast soon.
     
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    Oh ok. I thought I might be jumping the gun. Nightowl + insomnia is a pain in the @ss. Thanks for the quick response.
     
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    Ehh... I'm not too sure about the user requirements. Should there be some? Probably, but nothing too big and that takes too long. Besides, the people with hundreds of Daps and Comments tend to frequent many of the several discussions on the site. I've seen the same names on almost every post I've read. @ockydub @Nick Delmacy @DreG @BlackguyExecutive @cypher21 @OhSheit @Jaa @Dante @grownman @NickAuzenneNOLA
    Y'all are the main people I see... Y'all are CypherAvenue famous.

    If the goal is to increase membership and membership activity, the user requirements can't be too big. I'd say no more than 50 daps, 50 comments, and 5 postings of a topic to discuss. Low af for y'all, but pretty ambitious for non-famous Squad members.

    Other than that, I'm all for private threads.
     
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    Private threads not visible the public yes, however to lurkers
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    I do think it will create an atmosphere of exclusion, within an already excluded group of people desperate to find like minded individuals. It is already difficult out there to fit in, we got Bears, Muscle Marys's, Demontors, Otters, Mutants, Twinks, Uruk-hai, Gym rats, White walkers, Daddy's, Mudblood, Nerds, Orcs, Geeks, Storm Troopers e.t.c When a ''lurker'' is finally comfortable to speak up or join the conversation they would in their own time and would be wholeheartedly welcome. Cypher is and should continue to be a space for those who do not feel welcome for represented out there,to login in and and feel they are with family.
    To the issue about the Facepic thread that should be the only one kept private to lurkers. When they have meet set requirements for being a member/active member over a period then they would be considered to access that particular thread.
    Just my two cents.
     
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    I can see what you are saying. Especially, since I said in another post. "Lurkers come out little by little." I believe that
    at a good percentage of the board wants and needs this.

    But, yes it so much crap out there that I was glad to stumble upon this. I took 2 months coming out on here.
     
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    Lol. I am not sure about "famous". But, what you said makes sense to me. I just wanted to say that. I believe that most of us are trying to keep it a " safe place"for all of us
    That is the where the frustration is coming from. But, I am always for what is right and fair.
     
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    We had a long talk last night and made some decisions on this.

    I'll create an official public notice soon but there will be User Requirements ONLY for access to the Private Area, the rest of the site will remain as is...So lurkers can still lurk, but only in the public areas.

    The private area will be reserved to people who are ACTIVE and meet certain minimal criteria. Yes, the requirements will be high but that is to encourage more participation. If some people feel that it's too much work to comment on threads, they can continue to view the site causally as usual. Nothing will change there.

    The private area will have 4 forums:

    1.) "Shoot The Shit" for general private threads like the Face Pic thread and discussions that reveal personal information or posts for Active Squad Eyes Only.

    2.) "Advice" for asking personal questions to the Squad about life, sexuality and relationships that may be too specific/detailed/sensitive for public view.

    3.) "NSFW Thirst Traps" for posting any non-pornographic photos/videos that feature nudity (must be placed within Spoiler Tags though).

    4.) "NSFW Sex and Adult" section for no holds barred private adult discussions on Sex related topics.

    We'll be Beta testing the new area with a handful of guys soon.
     
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    I would say YES. I had commented on a posting about being black LGBT and Abroad and posted a picture of me and my husband attending an event and a few days later I received a message from a random stating that he knew my husband when he went to college. I subsequently edited the posted and took down the picture. Not because I was afraid of sharing it but it just weirded me out that we were recognized or assumed to be recognized by a random faceless, profileless account.
     
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    I hate stuff like this and I've been there in the past. Like I mentioned above...I wish we (the founders) would thought ahead about this before. Now that we know we are making adjustments.
     
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    Go and check out the nude Obama pics I posted. He hot right? I mean just look at the expression on his face.
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    I can say that I am glad this has been thought of before people's personal lives got TOO PUBLIC. I know for me I come to the site and comment in waves of like 3 week spans, just because I will preview posts by title and if not interested enough at the moment, will move along. If one post gets me in, I may stay around on here for about 2 weeks just catching up on some threads on the Boards that I have missed out on. Hence why I am here now. I don't feel that is being a lurker, just not a consistently active member.
     
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    i think its a great idea especially for those who are active more so than others. so ironic cause i have been M.I.A. but i'mma do better and be more active this year. just had a lot going on is all.
     
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