Does the personal Life of an actor/director affect how you view their work? Should it?

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    So does what an actor, director etc. does or has done affect the way you see their work? Does finding out something negative about them make you think differently(especially negatively) about the work they have done? Should you be affected? What do you think?

    The post and comments on Nate Turner got me thinking about this. He does not want to reflect black gay men as homosexual, and also there is the apparent controversy about the alleged sexual assault.

    Others who might fall into this category:

    -Woody Allen-accused of basically being a pedophile or hebeophile
    -Bill Cosby- Accused rapist
    -Roman Polanski-Accused rapist
    -Mel Gibson- too long too list.

    any others you can think of?

    Are we supposed to now judge their work based on their personal character? Condemn it? Boycott it? Ban it?

    I have a hard time thinking that I have to look at The Cosby Kids, Annie Hall, or Rosemary's Baby as somehow corrupted or polluted just because the people who created them may be messed up individuals.
    A masterpiece work is a masterpiece work IMO.

    What if someone who's work you love and admire is outed as a hateful racist? How would that make your respond to the work they have done?
     
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    Ummm, I think it depends. Jeepers Creepers is one of my favorite films. Right after I saw the sequel I learned the writer/ director of both was a convicted pedophile. I no longer watch his work.
     
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    Dammit I did not know that and I love the first Jeepers Creepers. Shit. I wish I had not made the thread now.
    *goes to investigate this*
    Oh shit. Well can't watch that movie now. There seemed to be no question about his guilt. Molesting a 12 year old boy?
    And he served 15 months. smh.

    I guess it really does 'depend'.
     
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    And taped it. And If you watch part 2 and know what happened, part 2 is incredibly homo-erotc and is about a bunch of teenagers.
     
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    Yeah I read about what he did. How he only served 15 months is beyond me. I did not like the 'teenagers-trapped-on-a-bus #2, but at least it was a high school bus and not middle school or elementary. Now the song is even ruined.

    And I was looking forward to the next installment.

    *WHY did I google his pic? He looks like John Wayne Gacy! creepy as hell.

    And of course he identifies as homosexual. Why did I create this damn thead.
     
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    He's pretty much the only person where I avoid his work because of personal issues.
     
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    I am on another board and just recently a certain poster took me off of ignore...after five years!
    All because I refused to condemn the works of Woody Allen.
     
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    Ive just never been excited about Woody Allen films period so I've really never seen one lol.
     
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    John Landis and his child labor law issue is one I can think of. I have enjoyed the Thriller! Video, Trading Places and Clue.

    I think most of us were detached from that accident. I didn't even know about it until later because I was a kid when it happened.

    I can separate someone's art from who they are so it does not bother me about someone's allegations or convictions. I don't think that discredits their vision.
     
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    Bryan Singer has had allegations about child molestation or something...Think the case was settled or thrown out though.

    I do think an actor/filmmakers' personal opinions can affect (not effect, sorry, lol) how a person feels about the work. For example we had a 180 turn in the discussion about Nate Parker on The Boards once we learned that not only did he make homophobic comments, he also was accused of rape in college. First Photos of Nate Parker as Nat Turner

    Also, I think many people dislike anything Spike Lee does due to his personality.

    I've even started to dislike Gary Oldman once I learned he was a ultra conservative right wing republican...even though I still think he's a good actor.

    Same happened with Seinfeld's Michael Richards after he went on his racist tirade at The Laugh factory.

    I've even written about black comedians like Tracy Morgan and Kevin Hart who are proven homophobes, yet we (gay people) still support them. The Brunt of the Joke: Black Comedy & Homophobia

    The comments section there was interesting...One guy even said "If you can take a dick, you can take a joke." smh
     
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    While, I was never a fan of Seinfeld because it was boring to me. I would catch the beginning or tail end. But, after those racist comments hurled at a audience member. I can't watch even a clip of the show-especially if he is in the scene.
    Mel Gibson-the same. I loved those lethal weapon movies. The ironic thing is that he had Danny Glover as his sidekick.
    So, yes it does for me.
     
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    I pretty much have the same level of disdain for any and all celebrities/actors/directors/singers athletes/entertainers and do not like knowing details of their personal lives.
    i already believe the worst in them so I just want them to entertain me.
    So when I do find out negative things, it rarely changes my already slanted opinion.
    Unless its something that I particularly can't stomach or find a crime of nature like child or animal abuse, rape, wasting bacon, or following "rules of fashion", I separate what I've heard or know and enjoy the work.
     
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    I know tons of (white) people who have disdain for Chris Brown and Michael Vick, even though they've served their time and should be all forgiven based on how our justice system works...
     
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    You have never seen a Woody Allen film...ever...:mindblown:


    Fuck I knew I would get that affect/effect wrong. That is one that I always screw up damnit. And yeah, the Nate Parker thread kind of inspired this one. I want to say that I can appreciate the art..blah blah but then I find out about the Jeepers Creepers guy and that goes out the window. It is not so much of a choice as just a visceral response-that film is ruined for me now. I never really cared for Seinfeld, and most of those it never bothered me enough-and if someone just has a 'bad personality' that is not a dealbreaker. Homophobic comedians who are just nasty about it I just write them off.
    'Wasting of bacon' :dead1:


    I liked Mel and even those Lethal Weapon films(I also really like Danny Glover) but yeah, his films are kind of ruined for me now too. Mel has just hated on nearly every possible group and is beyond any redemption.


    I still have a little bit against them. Not anything related to 'being forgiven' though-it was never that bad. With Vick..white people and dogs...well...just can't explain that. Kind of up there with child killing. Chris Brown? I think he still comes across as an ass but other than that I don't care about him-but feminists never forget...:sucka:though he seemed to get it really badly. Black men are held to a different standard I guess even when it comes to stuff like this.
     
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    It's mainly white feminists that have a hard on for Chris Brown. Their outrage over domestic violence is selective anytime a black male public figure gets accused of domestic violence, rape, or some other "crime against women" they come out en masse on the internet or media to perform a virtual lynching. Ray Rice is another example of this. Any white man accused of the same crimes there is barely a peep out of them. They certainly don't continue to hound him long after the initial controversy has died down. This clear double standard is one of the many reasons why I have no respect for feminists or feminism. That said an actor or public figure's personal life or prejudices does have an impact on whether or not I'll support them. I make it a point not to support actors or musicians I know who have racist or homophobic views. However I'm not surprised when I hear statements like that. It's just one of those things I've come to expect.
     
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    I kind of disagree. Mel Gibson never even committed an actual crime and he still can't live it down.
     
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    Mel Gibson has had controversy about religious comments and comments about lesbians for years..I mean many years before things really blew up for him. He was still viable up to his arrest(and conviction) for DUI (the 'fucking Jews' and infamous 'sugartits' comments), and was pretty much doomed after that, but it was the phone convo's in 2010 where he was incredibly racist and virulently hateful, misogynistic, and supporting rape and abuse that really put him in the grave and nailed the coffin shut. He had several chances and blew it. Good riddance too.

    I think he had said things about lesbians, Jews, etc way back in the 90's or even 80's.

    I do kind of agree that once you cross the white feminists you are toast. They rarely forget or forgive. Hell anyone can say anything about gays but if the person apologizes and makes a public service video they are usually forgiven.
     
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    Mel Gibson is just one case though. Feminists still don't foam at the mouth like rabid dogs anytime his name is mentioned. Also MG more so got in hot water in his rant about Jews.
     
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    It depends on the person, the best example I can give is Whitney Houston, was never a fan of her or her music. To me she came off as phony, not taking away from her talent I just never cared for her, some of hers songs I liked, but she never was someone I just had to listen to. The same with Woody Allen, I find his movies to be boring and annoying to watch, the only one I actually liked was The Purple Rose of Ciaro and that's because he wasn't in it. There are those celebrities that come out and say stupid shit that make me not support them anymore i.e. Matt Damon, then there are some who I didn't like at first but they eventually grew on my like Ben Afleck.
     
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