Some tips on Asking Out A Man On The First Date In The Age Of Online Dating

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  1. Lancer

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    Came across this tips(they were numbered and set as 'Rules' but I changed it to 'tips') and it really is a no-brainer and I have experienced/learned a few of them over my actively dating life. Hope it can help those who are navigating this tough and treacherous dating wasteland...Good luck!
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    We certainly don’t know the secrets to living happily ever after, but we do have some pointers for how to at least properly meet someone. Hint: good manners are always a good idea.


    * If you want to go on a date with him, ask him out
    Welcome to the 21st Century, when straight women are empowered enough to ask men out. That means no one, gay or straight, should wait around to be asked. Perhaps you are shy, and that is a challenge, but everyone is scared of rejection. In fact, is selfish to expect someone else to always take the risk. And telling him, “Here is my number, text me if you want to go out sometime” is so depressingly passive, it does not deserve him giving you a response. Don’t be a wimp.
    * If you take the initiative to ask him out, have a plan of what you want to do

    It was your idea to ask, so you should actually have an idea of a place to go. Asking him to go out, and then following it with the question, “So where do you want to go?” or “When?” is the worst. He may not have been thinking about going out with you, and suddenly placing the responsibility on him to come up with a plan is stressful and rude. If you can’t think of someplace to go, it suggests that perhaps you are, sorry to say, boring.

    * If you offer the vague, non-committal “Let’s go out sometime,” and he agrees, you have three more texting encounters to finally make a suggestion

    Asking someone to get together “sometime,” but never finding the time to do it, means you are always finding other activities you would rather do than go out with him on that date you suggested. So hurry up and make a commitment.


    * If you ask him and he declines, you can certainly try again (and you should, life is short), but it is his turn to ask you
    Perhaps he doesn’t want to, which is a bummer but life goes on. (Remember, rejection is actually a good thing because it means you are racking up the numbers required to find a match.) Or, perhaps your first invitation was casual, so ask a second time with a more specific suggestion. At least you tried. If he wants to pursue any sort of connection—on a date, as friends, whatever—he needs to meet you halfway. Never chase anyone. Sadly, there are people in this world who will keep sending you “What’s up” text messages only because they seek attention more than they seek affection.

    * If you asked him out, he said yes, and you agreed on a day/night of the week, always have a plan set before you go to bed the night before
    Even if it is a quick message of “I get off at work around ____, I will text you then,” that is enough to let him know you remembered, and you respect the fact that he can’t wait around for you all day. And for God’s sake, remember Rule #2. Be a man.

    * If he asks you out and you want to meet, but you already have plans for the time he suggests, then offer another time. Don’t just turn him down.
    Suggest something immediately, during that conversation. “I am busy on Friday. How about Saturday?” Boom. Done. If you aren’t sure of your schedule, of course you have the right to take a day or two to get back to him. But if you turn him down, and then a week or two later you text him, “I’m not busy now!”…good for you. His invitation has expired. You are not living in a Tennessee Williams drama, a southern belle sitting on your porch, sipping tea and welcoming gentlemen callers to woo you into marriage. You made him wait, so take off your hoop skirt: It is your turn to ask.

    * Stop sending countless texts and “smiles” and “woofs” on hookup sites to young, complimenting them simply for being young and beautiful
    Carrie Fisher wisely said, “Youth and beauty are not accomplishments,” and she perfectly summed up the crisis that has engulfed our community’s next generation. In years past, young gay men (and all youth in the LGBT community) suffered without a support system to guide them as they learned how to become adults. When once we treated them with indifference, we now threaten them with overindulgence, as it is so easy to endlessly compliment them for doing nothing other than taking a selfie. Sending a 21-year-old a “smile” on Adam4Adam or a “woof” on Scruff is nothing more than a fleeting thought, an effortless gesture; but those messages add up in their inboxes, and eventually those lovely young men think they somehow deserve the attention provided by the lists of men who apparently think they are special. These boys have learned to view the outside world from the perspective of their identities as sexual objects, and when someone innocently attempts to speak to them as actual adult humans, it is presumably yet another tiresome attempt to have sex. Or, they become offended when they realize it isn’t. Either way, no one wins. Save your compliments for the people, young or old, who you actually know and like. Compliments should be part of an actual conversation.

    *An introductory phone conversation can tell you a lot about him, in just minutes.

    Cell phone technology has ruined the experience of talking on the phone, with garbled voices and never finding a convenient moment for both persons to talk. Endless texting, with the “What’s up” and “What do you like to do for fun” and “What are you into” questions, is no way to get to know a person. Speaking requires you to contribute to the conversation. So talk on the phone at least once, just for a few minutes, before you meet. Schedule a time, turn off your TV, sign out of Facebook, turn on some background music, and chat about your day. If you need something to do while you talk, fold some laundry or something similarly mindless. Then say “Thank you,” make a plan to go on a date (or don’t), and hang up and go on with your life. Meeting for the first time and being confronted with what he really looks like and acts like AND sounds like can be unnecessarily awkward. FYI, simply listening to a texted recording of his voice doesn’t count.

    * Sending a text message in front of someone else is the same as having a secret conversation

    Imagine you are on a date. Someone walks up to your companion, they whisper something to each other, and they don’t tell you what they just talked about. Strange, yes? Texting has become a social necessity, but your date has no idea if you are sending a message of “This guy is so ugly and boring” and you are planning an escape. Or perhaps he thinks you just got a message on Grindr, and you’re texting back that you are on a date but can meet up for sex later. Even if it is an innocent message to your co-worker, isn’t your date important enough to put your phone away and pay attention for an hour? If it isn’t, perhaps you should leave and stop wasting his time. But remember: if you are always looking for something better, nothing will ever be good enough.

    * Whoever asked to go on the date, pays for the date

    Asking a guy to meet you for a cup of coffee may not seem like a big deal but still, buy him his stupid cup of coffee. In a perfect world, with two adults who both have jobs, you would each pay for yourself all the time. But even the most expensive cup of coffee is $6, so show a little panache and thank him for taking the time to meet you in person. If you ask him to an expensive restaurant for dinner, don’t expect him to pay for his half. He may not be able to afford it.
     
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    I agree with everything but the last point. We are both men and should both be able to pay our own way.

    I specifically said to the guy I am having lunch with tomorrow that we are paying our own way so there you go. He cool with it. Lol.

    Nice post my Nigerian brother.
     
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    I usually pay if I ask a guy out,we being both men has never come to my mind. If he ask me out, I ALWAYS insist on paying for myself. If he still insist on paying I force him to let me pay, by joking that when we get married and I want to buy a Lexus LFA he can then pay for that. Works EVERY TIME! lol
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    LOL, I just had to:franko1:
     
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    Don't know how I missed this one.
     
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    "Stop sending countless texts and “smiles” and “woofs” on hookup sites to young, complimenting them simply for being young and beautiful"
    I love this one. {Most} young dudes nowadays are so hung up on themselves because of other muhf@#kaz praising them ad nauseum just for being young and cute. NEE-GRO PLEASE LOL If ALL you got goin' for you is your Face/Body/D!ck, then we're definitely not a match.
    The rest of the points are very, very good, as well. Kudos for this post.
     
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    Yeah, but let's not get off track. That was suppose to be about the activity of the thirsty daddys out there. I will not let ya'll come for the young and beautiful, not on my watch. :whoa:
     
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    Oh...I made that commenting assuming that everyone knew it was the thirsty ass "1970's Kat Daddies" and "Chelsea Leather Daddies" smilin' and woofin' at everything 18 to 25yo. LOL But it takes two to tango, and yous young a$$ negros let that sh!t go to ya heads and start expectin' EVERYBODY to arbitrarily kiss and blow smoke up yous' a$$es. LOL
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    I like how mostly all of these were simpleminded and more of common sense.

    ....the only thing that I would add is to avoid adventurous first dates; don't take that n*gga out canoeing or some sh*t. First dates are initial dates and are there for you to get to know more about one another. Save all the exciting, rigorous activities for date number 2 (or if you're lucky, 3, 4, 5....).
     
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    I disagree, I don't think it has anything to do with being men; it's common courtesy (in honesty, it's common decency).

    ....if I'm the one who asked you out and planned the date, of course I should be the one to pay - or at least offer to pay.
     
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    To each his own. WE both employed so we both can pay our own way and I made that very clear when asking the guy out in a very slick and subtle way.

    If you have all the money in the world to pay for yourself and the guy you take out each and every time then good for you but I am a BROKE graduate school student that is not going to front like he can stunt on this h*es out here like that! lol!
     
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    So I have to disagree with my boy @African King, I definitely feel whoever asks should pay or at least know thats the expectation in mind. I'm a college student myself so I know the struggle is real, so I get where my boy is coming from, but I also feel like it's a date, it's not like two friends going out to dinner, so it's like a special circumstance. However, if one wants to do a cheaper alternative one could always make cook a home cooked meal and eat it with the person at their place (providing you've met before in person). But I also think just because were both men, doesn't mean one can't also pay for the other. lol. Because you gotta think about it, I bet you a million dollars you wont hear a lesbian woman say "we are both grown women and can pay our own way" lol.
     
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    ....I've come to hate the term "to each his own." ....it's become such a cop-out.

    But anyway yeh, it's not as big as it's being seen. I'm not taking the dude to a three star Michelin. On an initial date where I am the one asking you out, it's ideal and courteous to pay or offer to pay at the least. For every other date, if I asked you out, I'd still offer to pay but more than likely the other dude will want his turn to pay (or agree to pay separately).

    It's not about stun'in on these ho*s or having all the money in the world or even being a broke student (we've all been there before and some of us still are), it's just about being polite.

    ....Just because you're a man doesn't mean you can't be courteous to another man; it doesn't make either one of you less of a man.
     
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    Speaking from experience a guy has asked me out on a date, and I did pay the bill. He wasn't expecting it, but it's common courtesy for me to at least show that I can support myself. If a guy did want to pay it's not that much of a big deal. I think we all sometimes buy into heteronormative views that the dominant guy should be the one to pay most of the time, but I've never believe in that kind of stuff. However, I will say guys who do approach me for "go dutch" date I tend not to take them serious later on when it comes a potential relationship later on down the line. So moral of the story be careful how you put yourself out there on the dating you are being judge from the time you ask the person out up until the date ends.
     
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    So many rules in the 21st Century seems more like gay Cosmo tips.

    If you like someone and want to ask them out, it's a good idea to me to find out what this person and I could do or go that would be mutually satisfactory instead of having a plan of what I'd like to do.

    Financially wise, if I'm asking you out I'm expecting to pay and will announce it, man, woman, co-worker, neighbor, whatever and I'll suggest ok then, you can do the tip.
    (Heh, heh, heh) you know what I mean.
    If you ask me out, I'm expecting to pay my ½ but if you insist on paying, I'm ok with that and will suggest that I do the tipping.
    I'd suggest putting the who's got what part when it comes to the payment options on the table right away, to avoid confusion.

    If while on that date there's an outside text or call, a simple "this is who/whatever" should suffice. I'm not going to not answer if it's say my Niece texting or calling me but I'll keep it short and let her know Unkie will call her back in a few. If the date can't understand that there's life, work and family outside of that moment then they may not be worth getting to know further.
     
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    lol OMG sorry but I gotta say it again my West African bro @Champagne_Papi... "to each his own". I just think that if I want to invite someone out that I will lay it all out there and then see what happens. I don't think another man paying for me makes me less of a man or vice versa BUT I just think it is important to have clear communication so both men know what's expected. If you want to be out here always buying drinks and food and what not for dudes that's fine too. I will not be doing it 100% of the time.

    I was in the club RUNNING the streets of South Beach (Miami) and I bought the guy who was throwing it BACK on me in the club a jack and coke. It cost $12 which was ridiculous (lol I'm so glad I don't drink) but I got it for him just because I felt like it.
     
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