Do you care what made you gay?

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  1. acessential

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    Or bi or sgl.......

    It seems that every few months, there's a new study or report that comes out detailing some scientist's or psychologist's theories as to what makes some people attracted to the same gender. There's theories related to hormones, the gay gene, the environment, birth order, pheromones, whatever.

    I understand basic intellectual curiosity, but other than that, I don't care to know. It happened, it happens, it will continue happen, get over it. I guess part of me feels like these studies are just attempts to try to rectify the "problem" of homosexuality. As if it's just innately wrong. It rubs me the wrong way.

    What do y'all think?
     
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    I have no care just like what made people straight or ogl. Just by the simply reality of gay and bisexual men having engaged in heterosexual sex acts and not be "fixed" or "cured" alone makes me care even more. Those people who are engaging in the whats and whys research about my sexual attraction should find the time to do the research on left-handed and non-white people, too. I've been window shopping at the market in the fish section a many of days ever since the age of 8/9 and I've always left the market with meat. They will just have to deal with it.
     
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    Only to the extent that something negative might come out of some research-like maybe they will find something in a gene or some hormonal imbalance in pregnancy and then be able to declare that homosexuality is some kind of 'flaw' of 'fault' that needs corrected, instead of just a natural occurrence that is just not as common as heterosexuality(sort of like with eye color, blue being less common, but so what?) I can see a possibility of women aborting babies with the 'gay gene' just like many do with Down's Syndrome or other 'undesirable' characteristics.

    *Also there may be some unknown natural biological benefit from being gay that we do not know about yet-what if there is a gay gene, and people abort 'gay' fetuses, and then some disease pandemic breaks out and the 'gay' gene is the only thing that keeps a person from getting some deadly pathogen? Diversity in a species is almost always biologically a good thing.

    You just never know how these things can turn out, and what 'research' can lead to.
     
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    Sometimes I wish I knew. I am inside of a Facebook group based out of Atlanta with black gay men within the group and someone asked who all in the group have gay siblings. Quite a few have gay siblings which was mind-blowing then there were a few sets of identical twins who were gay. It makes one wonder whether or not there is a "gay gene" or if it is hormonal.

    I do not fit any stereotypes as far as when some people say things like childhood molestation or not having a father in the house makes you gay. So I am clueless!
     
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    outside of the whole scientific curiosity thing not real
     
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    I actually would think the research would help people see that is is more natural than anything. I don't think anything makes someone gay truth be told besides pure genetics and be part of your biological makeup. Now whether or not someone acknowledges it, I think is a different story. Sometimes I do wonder who the other gay member in my family is, because I know it can't just be me. However my family is very traditionally and culturally Haitian, so whoever they are, they may have a tough time getting there and identifying with their sexual orientation. Me however, having moved away from home at an early age, I pay too many bills out in these streets to be scared, im sorry lol. So me coming out even young wasn't a thing for me. However, I also do know not many in my family know that I am gay either.
     
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    I feel you brother
     
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    I'm straight
     
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    What does it even matter?

    I was born this way. No one 'made' me gay or turned me out.

    There's many different paths to gay, non heterosexual, bi etc. And there's plenty of people who have same sex attraction but don't act on it or admit it due to what they think pother people will think of them.
     
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    This is also something I've thought about. I don't think we as a society are ready to find the "gay gene" or some other indicator of someone's sexual orientation by doing a pre-screening. Not because we can't develop the technology, but because we're not socially ready. There's too many people who see being gay as a defect and will rush to abortions. I think I would be more willing to find a gay gene if we reach a point where non-heterosexual orientations are not only accepted, but embraced by society. That way folks won't see it as a defect that needs to be eliminated. I doubt it'll happen any time soon though.
     
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    I definitely understand the desire to prove that homosexuality is a natural occurence, but why should we have to prove our humanity? This is the problem I have with the "born this way" argument. Even if we chose to be gay or sgl, why shouldn't that be an acceptable choice? We're adults. We're not hurting anyone. Let us be.
     
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    There is no problem with the "born this way" argument. The problem is that non-heterosexual people have to have that argument. Straight people don't have to have an argument, bc their attraction is always in the right and "normal" zone.
     
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    I don't dismiss the "choice" option. Using prison as an example here.

    People confined in same sex spaces often end up forming bonds with at least one person and that could lead to something sexual. So even if it's "gay for the stay" or "gay until graduation" that's the individuals option. Maybe being in a situation where one is only around the same sex makes it easier to act on same sex attraction even if it is small but I would not knock someone who is more hetero leaning to drop it all once the opposite sex is more available.

    I don't really think people get "turnt out" either because it's probably just a matter of them having an opportunity to experience same sex sex in a space they feel comfortable in with a person they are comfortable with.
     
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    Good observation. That's a whole topic in itself. The same applies to being confined in a household or living environment where you are fostered around the pressures of being "straight" and engagements with females as a gay man.

    You can fuck anything or anyone. But as a sgl man, do not birth a conversation challeging my sexual attraction.
     
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    Dis heeyah (my original southern accent).

    Lest anyone think the religion problem is just a white right/GOP thing, I work with plenty of so-called liberal/Democratic government types who are homophobic as fuck due to their Catholicism. They routinely mock the LGBT folk who come before our agency, behind closed doors. You can have Steve Bannon AND Pope Francis....

    You know, that's what really pissed me off about Milo Yannipoulous trying to justify his pedophilia. "I'm gay and I was molested as a youth." No, predation and grooming are not tied to your sexuality, Milo, it's your personality and you're just a fuckng creep. For every Jerry Sandusky you point out, there there is also a Roman Polanski or two.

    So, in order to get himself back into his alt-right good graces he played to the oldest canard out there, that gayness is pathological and always tied to perversion/molestation. Just a pig giving assholes like Jeff Sessions more ammo for future government repression and bullshit.

    I and all my siblings had the same parents, in the home, and no one touched me other than the normal asswhuppins that black adults were inclined to dish out for punishment prior to Alvin Poussant. I don't need an explanation for who and what I am, especially when many of us on this board work hard, innovate, get educated and law-abide better than most straight mofos in this country, black or white.
     
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    Yes I think it would be interesting to see what comes from the research.
     
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    agreed because folks will be so scared that they won't even bother to care about religion or if they're going to hell or what society thinks because to them they'll just be happy they got rid of a gay child before he or she is born.
     
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