Road To Massa's House: Official 2016 Presidential Race Thread

Most definitely. But the GOP Comedy Tour does help keep things interesting.

 

I am voting for Join John Kasich's Fight to Get America Back on Track if he ever wins the nomination. I am not here for either Clinton or Bernie, honestly. Clinton is a fraud, Bernie is delusional. Republicans are a mess. If John Kasich doesn't run, count me out of this election.

EDIT: Just Kidding! lol I will be voting for Dem as usual. Clinton or Bernie beats out any other candidate of the Good Ol' Crown Car party

 

@ockydub did u hear Hilary decided to stop accepting the pricate prison donations, and to donate all of those received so far to charity? Maybe she be readin yo posts...

 

You raise a great point Ocky and one I've argued with my friends before...I think Democrats are great for the poor but so so for the middle class. Obamacare was a great law but it mainly benefited the poor. The stimulus did keep America from falling into extreme depression but that as temporary. I don't think the Dems agenda at the moment helps the average middle class person. Hillary's current economic agenda(paid sick leave, equal pay, .....) are good but don't benefit me with a terminal degree, a middling job, and piles of student loan debt. Obama did propose middle class tax cuts at the last SOTU so thats a place to start

I will still support Hillary because she's better than any R by far

 

Bernie has already done what seems impossible. He has drawn record crowds of people old and young. I'm afraid it's that Hillary has too much of a strong hold on the media and minds of people. Yeah, she's a democrat. Yeah, she'd be the first female President. Yes, her husband was a former President and has done great things. However, we must look at this from more than one perspective--the positives and the negatives. First and foremost, she and her husband have ties to Wall Street, ties to Big Money, and, therefore, ties to the Rich. These same rich 1% are the ones responsible for the majority of American problems. Secondly, she is obviously making use of her last name and political power of the former President. Her already extant political power is the only reason she's a factor. I feel that true equality would call for the first female President to be someone who's not the wife of a former President. Think about it, her advantage comes solely from being the wife of a President, seeing how the Presidential race works, and how to work the system. I'm sorry, but I'm in love with the underdog story. The story with the circumstance of actually facing and overcoming hard circumstances, such as the story of Barack Obama. And right now, Bernie is that underdog fighting the rich. Hillary is a story of inheritance, and I'm not quite so in love with it.

 

I could go on, but I do believe we have a word limit.

 

@Nick Delmacy

 

I am ashamed to say that I have only looked at the 2nd republican debate. SMH. Been a busy 4 months.
From the debate I did see I must say Rand Paul an Jeb Bush kinda made me like them. Carly Fiorina came off a little cold and bitter. I would be interested to see what are some of their specifics when it comes to domestic issues. One of the issues being the Black Lives Movement.
The rest of them were a wash to me. The others really didn't make an impact in my opinion.

 

LOL !!!

 

Bernie has my vote. I like him for some reason. He seems real and not a machine like Hilary. She is too fickle for me, whichever way the wind blows. Luckily for her that is what most politicians do - including our current president. But there is something about her that I do not trust - and I still hold her and her husband accountable for that horrible crimes bill that was passed in the 90's that was distinctly aimed at disproportionaly disenfranchising minorities and flooding our communities with nuance police officers and increasing prisons, and for profit correctional facilities. This BITCH is EVIL. 666. Satan. The devil's daughter. She is not as transparent enough for me and for that reason, which means she got some shit to hide. I am going to go with Bernie.

If i was a GOP voter - I would vote for Donald Trump. I like the fact that he dances to his own tune and drum. Since politics are just an experiment and everyone is paid by big business, I would be inclined to see what would happen if someone was elected that was not controlled by big money or corporate interests.

 

Well in a way I want to see Trump be the GOP candidate-as sort of a 'test of America'. If Trump can become president, then we need to have a motherf@cking revolution. Seriously. If Hillary is the devil's daughter, then Trump is the devil's diseased despicable insane @sshole.

 

I am glad you are just kidding, but since Kasich did well in N.H. (but won't most anywhere else) I just want to say this about him(and the GOP field like him).

Kasich is deeply religious, and his beliefs and his moral compass will guide his decisions. He kind of gave himself away when he was trying to defend himself to the rest of the GOP for being 'too moderate' when he said he supported certain things in Ohio(like helping the poor) because he would have to answer to God for it. Not because it was the right thing to do.
His comment about same sex marriage is also telling. He said 'it is the law'. Meaning SCOTUS ruled it was the law. But he just said it was the law, and the law can be changed-a new ruling from SCOTUS could overturn that. Or overturn Roe vs Wade. Or anything else he felt did not align with his own very personal religious beliefs. And he would try his best to change SCOTUS to reflect his religious beliefs. And he is the 'moderate' one. The GOP just cannot get it's hands on SCOTUS nominations especially when half of SCOTUS is nearly dead. Who knows what Trump might do-probably try to have himself installed as emperor or something. We need a Dem to protect SCOTUS!

 

The fact of the matter is everyone has a moral compass(at least every sane human should). We all believe in something that is bigger than ourselves, be it for religious or just spiritual. There is nothing inherently wrong with religion, and just because John Kasich believes in God does not necessarily disqualify him from being a good president. Kasich has actually *done* things, especially as a governor in Ohio. Everybody else in the GOP is just a blubbering buffoon. Sanders would be great, but Kasich wouldn't be bad either.

Look at his rap sheet and look at who he has appointed as Governor or senator. Our judgment of how good he can be a president should be mostly based on that. Religious people can be rational(at least most of us) and I strongly believe that Kasich is one of the good ones.

 

Bernie Sanders ideas are actually very feasible and not expensive at all. see Under Sanders, income and jobs would soar, economist says

 

It boggles the mind how folks (especially black folks) support Hillary over Bernie. This woman is so fake and literally changes her positions to get elected. She has 0 integrity. Remember in 2008 the dog whistle racist campaign the Clintons ran against Obama in South Carolina? Look it up.

FACT: In 1964, Clinton as a young adult campaigned and rallied for Republican Barry Goldwater who promised --if elected president-- to over turn the Civil Rights Act and racially re-segregate the nation. SHE supported NAFTA. She voted for the Iraq War.Her foreign policy judgment is Hella questionable. Compare her history with Bernie's and you'll see who been on right side of the issues and who's been the most consistent.

 

I never questioned whether or not everyone has a moral compass.
Some of us do not believe in anything bigger than ourselves. I do, but not everyone does.
I never said anything is inherently wrong with religion.
I never said believing in God disqualifies anyone from being president.

I do think the way Kasich interprets his religious beliefs and how they would influence his decision making would make him a bad president-I believe he would be fine forcing his religious beliefs, through policy decisions, down the throats of all Americans. I do NOT think he is one of the good ones.

I know what he has *done* as governor, and it sucks. And what he will *do* as president would also suck, and I base this upon his stated beliefs and his actions as Governor of Ohio. He is very conservative on social issues, and that is a dealbreaker for me. He is not just religious, he is a nutcase and an egomaniac, IMO. That is how I see it and I live here in the same metro area that he does and have known about him for many years(he is not new on the political scene in Ohio) and have had to put up with him, and I stand by my statement. YMMV of course.

* I did appreciate your noting his record of Governor of Ohio as a 'rap sheet' though.

 

So @Ockydub , is this not enough to convince you that Bernie Sanders is a politician just like everyone else? Hillary's Husband may have introduced mass incarceration, but at least she didn't officially vote for it like Bernie. I'm sure you will find an excuse to idolize him anyway. Just like Obama in 2008, Bernie gets to have it both ways with no consequences. Bernie Sanders Voted For Crime Laws He Denounces

 

Dog Whistle campaigns? I see you've swallowed the myths too. SMH

 

No sir I only speak truth. I'm not lying like Mrs. Clinton saying that campaign contributions from big banks don't affect her votes. I'm not saying that Bernie Sanders wants to "dismantle" Obamacare before passing Single Payer. Smh

 

Ha, i should probably let it known in advance that i lived in Ohio for 5 years before moving to Seattle, so my opinion of Kasich is completely different from yours, but I am also speaking from experience as an Ohio resident(although i dont claim to know any anecdotes about how things were before him, i am only speaking from a data-driven standpoint). I do believe that he has turned Ohio's economy around, among other things.

I would research and/or retrieve all the data that i have gathered to prove my point about his rapsheet lol but i am in headed to the gym and happy hour. Will come back with that later today.

 

This should be updated. Really just because I want to see some more big X's across the faces of Christie and Fiorina now that they are out. A pile of poop over Santorum's face would be appropriate though.

 

After the clown debate last night, among likely GOP voters in South Carolina, Trump is at 42% while the next highest is Cruz at only 20%. WHAT IS HAPPENING!? doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

 

So Hillary takes Nevada...I am afraid to get the results from South Carolina for the GOP....Trump and Cruz are both so damn horrible, just in different ways, Huge Evangelical turnout apparently in SC. so maybe Cruz can pull something off?

*apparently Bernie people were booing Hillary....where you at @Ockydub? Decide to fly off to Vegas hmm.

 

I made a promise not to make any political comments for a week on The Boards.

 

Hillary whooped dat ass in Nevada. She ain't playin.

 

I forgot all about that. When is your week up?

*Jesus have mercy on us, Trump is taking SC by at least 15% over Cruz and Rubio. How is this possible? It may be the End of Days. Better give up this gay shit and go back to the church, back to the Lord.

 

Time for a big red x over Jeb's mug. At least we are spared the possiblity of yet another shrub presidency.

 

Sooooo glad dude's gone. The country dodged yet another Bush bullet

 

I don't know why I've never really lurked on here before. Poor Jeb. He never had a chance, but he really wanted to be prez and I'm sure he can't stand that his brother got to and he didn't. But I think his son (George P. Bush) will carry the Bush legacy and will be our governor or Senator in Texas, and will likely run for prez himself.

I'm waiting to hear what the chatter about Kasich will be. I'm actually friends with one of his campaign surrogates, so I'm gonna see what kind of intel I can get. As it stands, though, everyone will rally to Rubio. He's more establishment than Cruz or Trump. But again, I'm curious to see what the Kasich chatter will be. He definitely stands the best chance against a Democrat than any other REpublican in the general. And he definitely has the experience. His policies and ideology are a different story right now, but he's definitely more mainstream than what Republicans are left with, besides Rubio.

Trump will only get so much support. Keep in mind he "won" with 32%; he lost the other 68% of the vote to five other candidates.

 

Ted Cruz and Ben Carson meet and argue in a storage closet!

http://theslot.jezebel.com/picture-ted-cruz-and-ben-carson-meeting-angrily-in-a-st-1760188536

You cannot make some of this stuff up. lol.

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How did they manage to wake Carson up long enough so he could argue? lol