Post Blames Masculinity for Fems acting "Ratchet" at ATL Pride

All this yayayayayaya. Ratchetness and fuckfoolery doesn't discriminate.

The purpose of Gay Pride was to empower, advocate and support the LGBT community. I really think they should legally ban Gay Pride if all it amounts to is "Let's Get Crunk, Drunk, Suck Dick, Eat Ass, Fuck, Fight, and Fuck Shit Up" Pride. If this is the bullshit that Prides are going to be about, I will gladly support it.

 

This article just seems off to me. The overall message I do agree with but the points lost me. When I see these videos on social media I do not see "thugs" fighting, so I don't know where that came from. Also like Ocky said these behaviors always occurred its just that social media and technology are much more advanced. Now I will say I don't condone violence but one video I did see the situation was that the guy had taken his money and gay black or not a lot of people would have reacted in the same way. I went to my first large gay event this year (sizzle) and I did not witness one fight or even a argument, so it is possible for the community to act civilize. In my opinion I feel there will always be "ratchet" people (this includes gay, straight, white, black, masc, fem) doing crazy stuff but they need to be held accountable for their actions. People are barely trying to break these fights up and/or report stuff like this to the authorities. Some people prefer to record and post it for likes. Drama and violence is everywhere from politicians, family, tv shows and movies... truth be told it can be exciting sometimes but there is a problem with some people not knowing how to conduct themselves at certain times and places.

 

At the very least, change the title "Gay Pride" to something more appropriate, because the days of actual "Pride" are LOOOOOOOOOONG gone.

 

This post does not seem right. It sounds like someone describing straight men and straight women, not masc or fem black gays.

how does this describe masc gays? How can you as masc black gays be constantly labeled discreet or downlow or hidden by the majority gays yet at the same time be desiring of a fab and sophisticated lifestyle? Those two things are mutually exclusive.

I have never heard anyone ever describe ratchet behavior among black gays as a 'masculine' thing...just the opposite. The masc guys are the ones hidden in the shadows afraid of being exposed, right? But at the same time they somehow are also the attention seeking ratchet types? That does not make sense.

The whole article does not make sense. Can anyone point me to any videos so I can see some of these things they mentioned and see what kind of guys are causing this trouble?

 

Dude is a blogger out of Chicago, I. Familiar with him but never met him as his circles definitely aren't mine lol. He's written a few good pieces, but he's definitely a social climbing fem; most of his articles are fashion and party/event oriented. He's also small in stature, so I guess any big bro is a thug to him, lol. He doesn't like anything unrefined or "ghetto" so to him if you're not an exquisitely dressed to the nines fem, you're a toxic masculine problem. Smh

If you want intelligent writing coming out of Chicago you need to check out Zachary Stafford, who ironically is published in the UK Guardian not Chicago sites or papers.

 

I have seen gay black fights online in videos at various places(and white ones too) and I don't think I would ever describe the majority of the participants as masculine and certainly not 'thug nikkas'. This whole article sounds crazy. Hell you can even see in most of the fights that they fight like women and half have purses and drag queens/transsexuals are often involved-hardly a masculine 'hood dude' thing.

Where are these videos? I gotta look now.

 

edited.... too revolted to even comment. smh. I have never seen anything even remotely like this at ANY gay pride event.

 

Aw, why not? How else Ima get my ratchet news feed?

(James Earl Jones voice)
"THIS is See-Dem-Fem" lol

 

"They WILL NOT be posted or linked from this here site, huntey!"


LOL Sorry, I couldn't resist, Ocky

 

Well I'd rather people fight than shoot. Honestly, I half way wish we could have regulated fisticuffs.

I didn't even know there were fights breaking out, at least beyond the usual. I was so out of the pride loop. I'm actually thinking about doing some "white" pride events, at least going to the parade.

Anytime you get a group of people there will be conflict. There were many events this weekend. Dragoncon had a sexual assault. Did anyone report anything negative at Luda Day Weekend events?

 

See, I never wanted to attend ATL Pride, now I do just for the video feeds. A whole new series on YouTube, call it

"GANGSTA FEMS"

"BWA: Bottoms With Attitude"

"Hell's Belles"

Sorry for the corny jokes, but if dude is gonna throw shade and blame at masc bros, be prepared for backlash...or backwash...whatever....

I'm so throw with "Pride" anything; events, parades, whatever. More mainstream gay bs. Ever hear about fights at leather conventions?

 

Oh I did. See post number nine. 'Gays fighting at Atlanta Pride 2016' I watched a compilation and then Walter Lee Hampton was on suddenly talking about it..I forgot to stop the auto thing and it just went to his video about the same thing without my realizing it. I also googled it and stuff. WorldStar! has it up....they have the video of the convenience store and all the 'this is just how those blacks gays are!' comments-to be expected of that site 90% filled with trolls of all kinds smh.

* @alton you are wrong for that. *scarred*

 

In all the years I went to Pride events, etc. and also out at night to gay clubs, bars, etc. -the hundreds of times I went out..I never saw brawling like this or anything like that convenience store thing. I have never seen anything like this period personally. Never. I have seen arguments and a few fights, but the fights were fights- fought quickly and then over or broken up. Even the drag queen fights were one on one and over quick or broken up. I cannot recall having seen anything to compare to just one of those multiple fight scenes I watched on youtube. That stuff is just alien to me.

 

That's what I mean. There's too much POSITIVE LGBT stuff going on for me to buy into the Pride thing. The pride thing, whether "black" or "mainstream" is a bunch of corporatist crap. Hell, I've been to private parties, gay gamer events, book readings, film shows, etc. What the hell do I need drunk assed drama from wannabe Perez Hilton types. I think I mentioned before the audible shade I saw people give the Windy City Bears float at the 2015 Chicago Pride parade, yet all these mofos in crowd were cheering the Fox News float that went by ( yes, there was one there). Pride events are about as authentic and heartfelt as a KFC bucket of chicken coupon on MLK Day....

 

I guess my awkward point was that certain kinds of crowds bring certain behaviors. Yeah, there might be fisticuffs at a nerdy, gay gaymer event but I'm guessing....most likely not. Lol. Now a bunch of drug and meth fueled snap queens...I'm a say yeahhhhh....lol

 

Well maybe this was just some anomaly then? How big was this Pride...how many people spread over how big an area?
Was there any other event going on that could have 'spread over' into it and helped cause some of this?

There were nearly half a million people at the Pride..'thing'(I don't even know what to call it-it has morphed into this combination festival/parade/march/retail event/corporate extravaganza etc. here and I don't care so much for it anymore and it is always too. damn. hot! too crowded and not enough restrooms) and there were I think two 'regular' fights that broke out over the whole 3 day weekend of it. Nobody arrested or anything serious. It is the biggest in the Midwest-nearly as big as Chicago's.

 

Mine's bigger....

 

I can imagine some stuff like this happening at some redneckish music thing around here...but I would never go to that so I would never have seen it myself...and like Ocky said it would have to be recorded and put online.

 

I just remembered where I HAVE heard of brawls breaking out around here(Ohio)-Little league games and parents brawling over the kid's games! lol. Yes and they were white too! I have taken people to the Special Olympics and even there I heard smack talk from parents/relatives (and racist talk too).

Kid sporting events are white people's achilles heel when it comes to brawling! lol

 

What about white, lesbian transgender frat bros?

 

Alright gents, my lunch break is over. Later. If you want to continue to see lame gay behavior, Tim Cook is about to announce the next round of iPhones....

 

Yeah about double...1 million vs 600,000. smh. But what is really surprising, apparently BOTH are among the biggest in the World...but Cbus never gets mentioned of course lol. Columbus...what?...where? You mean that college in the cornfields?

I saw that the...uh...'original' Atlanta Pride had about 300,000 but could not find any attendance estimates for Atlanta Black Gay Pride...but saw some stuff saying it was the largest Black Pride in the US?

 

"Hell's Belles"

 

I might loose my membership to this forum, but I need to say this: The article is true. Thuggism is admired in the gay community. It is the furthest from femininity and it allows gay men to be under cover with their sexuality. There is also a sexual component to this Thuggism as can be seen on Real Eyes Realize Real Lies with Poindexter. He is accepted by his partner because he is dominate and sexy unlike the DL brotha that Corey was going to marry. He is allow to be abusive because the SEX is just too good. He is a PRIZE piece because he is HETEROSEXUAL like and he's lucky he got him. Corey isn't the most effeminate guy, but compare to the other characters on his show, he is. And Poindexter is the most Straight acting gay men on his show and often times, I find it hard to believe he's gay. I talk about this briefly on my last post. This is what gay men desire, but this is not what is good. As long as gay men want these kind of men, they will continue to be abuse as what happened in Atlanta. I will like to add something. There is a guy called Trey on The Boyz Next Door. (I'm sorry I'm getting names wrong - things have been hectic with my computer and I have not gotten a chance to see the show more recently). He is very similar to Poindexter on Real Eyes. He is Heterosexual like. Guess what was the response of most of the cast members when they ask who they would like to be with what given the option. I thought of the guy with the braids. He is handsome, level headed, intelligent and knows where he's going in his life. But that is not what most of these Gay men choose. It was Tripp. This is what he says. His father's a thug, brother and sister are thugs and even his mom is a thug. WOW! And we get upset when things like this happens. Now I see this Rapper on Freefall. Somehow they worked him into the script with CAM. Cam is similar to the light color blue jean wearing guy with the braids from South Carolina. He is smart and educated, but the decision he makes isn't always good. For instance Lyrik. All that guy had was that he was eye candy. But he was not very intelligent and he put Cam health at risk. But what ever risk that he put cam in, Cam has a rude awakening with this Tripp character. Tripp lives a very dangerous lifestyle. Remember, he's a thug. He might be a good person on his own (which I don't believe), but the people he is surrounded with are most likely bad. That is what cam should think about. Anyway, when you write these thugs into your shows as centerpieces, you create a can of worms. The kind of WORMS that would bite you like it did in ATL.

 

Please, by all means, keep expressing your point of view. I'm with @Ockydub in my opinion on the topic, but I hate echo chambers. Whenever you have a divergent view, put it out there, that's how discussion is supposed to be. And in defense of the CA owners, I can't recall where they went diva and banned someone for a contrary opinion.

 

Also as a person who doesn't watch every web series, you may want to find better analogies. But I think I get your point for the most part @Tom Brown

Maybe only a certain sector of black gay men find thugs prized possessions. I don't care how good your sex is, if you wanna fight me, you best to be ready to take as much as you give because I will not be abused. We can play fight, wrestle etc but I'm not going to be battered and accept that at all.

If it's masculinity that one desires that is different. As a gay man WTF do I want someone who's heterosexual for? Because you can attract chicks and hoes? Knee grow, you better sit down cause I can do that myself if I wanted it.

If guys are passing off decent, good guys over something as simple as "swag", then that's their fault for being unhappy when things go left.