The Tenth - Response to #GayMediaSoWhite

Maybe it is a generational or racial thing....but I don't get it...I don't have a clue?

 

Don't feel bad. I was a little lost as well.

 

I didn't get it but I liked it just the same.
Lot of good looking dudes of different varieties in what appears to be a new South setting.
No one can match Mahalia Jackson singing Trouble Of The World, the only song that can bring deep emotion out of me but this was a decent rendition of it.

 

Ok I don't feel so bad. Can someone explain it?

I did not see anything modern in it, and given it looks like the old South, It seems they killed the White Gay Media in Nat Turner fashion(the axe coming down and all) and it is afterwards and the hot guys are celebrating after the slaughter by having sex.

And what is Antoine Dodson doing in this?

 

Actually I think this is kind of dumb. Yes the gay white media is biased, but then showing your own bias by showing young, good looking, perfect body types is not a great representation of the black gay community is it? And I agree with the points about the gay white media, which is really about the Gay white elite-you don't see ugly or old or overweight people(or people of color) in it either. Or God forbid, working class gays.

What percentage of black gay men look like those pictured in this? It is different, but in some ways just as bad.

They have completely sold out. They just switched it to a narrative of perfect looking, young, good looking, hot bodied, in sexual situations black gays instead of white gays. They can't see the forest for the trees. All of the other things wrong with it as advertising for gay men is still wrong. Gay advertising of all kinds is still fucked up.

 

No matter what the color spectrum, when it comes to The Media, it's all about image. White being the "Top Billing", then Beautiful Faces, and Hot Bodies. Those are the 3 criteria that almost eeeeevery media outlet follows when it comes to representation of ANY "community". The Public wants to see "The Best of the Best" on screen, on paper, online. Nobody wants to see "regular" folk, because it reminds them of how "regular" they really are. Its like here at my job, in a former position I held. My product's core customer base were women ages 50-65yo, but our ads only showed women between 20-30 modeling the clothing. Media sadly is not now, nor will it ever be, a realistic representation of life, because the average person doesn't want to face reality. Look at "reality shows", even those are scripted and manipulated. Nothing is "real".

 

It is a sad commentary about gay advertising in general, and I guess advertising in general. Kind of like how Cypher Avenue has to point out that it does not have porn ads, because in gay site stuff that is the norm in gay advertising-porn and sex. It is depressing.

What does this kind of advertising tell straights about us? It shows that gay whites are exclusive and all gays are shallow and superficial-if we go by gay advertising.

 

But thats the thing, Bro. This type of media behavior is not exclusive to "The Gays" (I always chuckle when I here that expression LOL). Straight media does the same. The homely, fat chick doesn't want to see another homely, fat chick in a magazine, she wants to see the Iggy Azalea's and {Insert thin, beautiful, mainstream artist, actor here}. The balding, low level executive with cystic acne (see Ray Leota) doesn't want to see himself in Forbes, or {insert some upscale white publication here}, he wants to see a David Beckham and the like starin back at him.

 

Yes all media is guilty of that. But are they pouring water on themselves and being in sexual situations? I mean you do have the Carl Jr's ads with the hot chick in the bikini suggestively eating the nasty ass food, but going that far is really the exception for straights-that is why those commercials get so much attention-for gays it is the norm and that type of advertising is run of the mill and would be ho-hum.

 

In regard to "Porn Ads", it's mostly white porn advertisers (they have the money to be able to pay for an ad) but again, you have to think....who else are most gay site really gonna get to jump on board to support them via ads. I think the gay site immediately seek the gay porn advertisers as support because they're almost a "sure thing". Most other companies really dont want to be associated with a gay site. It would be something to see "Dove" or "Gillette", "Nike" etc advertising on a gay blog, but it'll never happen. It would "cheapen" the brand.

 

You dont have to narrow it down to sexually suggestive ads. In the bigger picture, str8 media as well as gay media, focus on The Young, The Beautiful, and The Hot Bodies, period. No matter WHAT the models/actors are doing in said ad(s), they follow the above criteria, in 98% of cases.

 

They should go after gay friendly companies. I can see clothing companies, fashion (ugh) maybe stuff like Ikea, technology, 'cutting edge' companies . you know, stuff like that. As long as the site is not a porn site or X rated

 

How many times do we see movies about someone's life that we KNOWWW wasn't all that great looking in life, yet the actor portraying them is good looking. See Notorious. The dude portrayin' B.I.G., while not my cup of tea, was by no means ugly, however we ALL know Mr. Wallace was not an aesthetically pleasing man to look at. He spit pure fire from the deepest volcanoe reaching the deepest levels of hell, but he was an ugly dude.

 

Well it is how they do it that differs. Is it suggestive, or in your face with sexuality? This little thing we watched in this thread is beyond suggestive- it has guys making out on a bed and most of the guys have their shirt off. How many times do you turn on the TV and see an insurance company, furniture company, car company, or any company ad like that? Gay ads are much more explicit IMO.

They all have the good looking better than in real life people. But are the people making out in a bed or walking around half naked or doing porn and stuff?

 

But you're talking about companies that don't deal in that kind of environment. The still mainly show only good looking people, but the media is ruled and shaped by The Fashion World and Hollywood, both of which are drenched in sex superficiality. Hence the Ambercrombie & Fitch, any cologne ad, any fashion magazine, damn near all retail commercials. While I still don't get what the f#4k this video is supposed to represent in relation to the article, its representative of what gay {black} media know that it's customer base wants to see. Beautiful, chiseled men in suggestive situations, no different than any str8 media outlet throwing a beautiful man or woman on the screen to pleas eits currently fanbase as well as mind f$%k impressionable people and gain a bigger fan base. At the end it's all about pandering to the lowest common denominator, and it will NEVER, EVER, change. Im not saying it's right, nor am I saying it's wrong. It's just a thing. Personally I don't care because I don't let the media influence me {anymore}. When I was in my late teens/ early 20's an into the whole gay/ballroom/shade/fake ass BS then yeah, I was hyped on all the glitz and glam, but once I hit 25yo, reality struck and all that shit went out the window, my brotha. LOL Leave the Illusionists to their smoke and mirrors and allow their adoring crowd to exalt them.

 

It is hard enough to get any advertising in gay media really. I just checked a whole lot of sites and yeah, they had all kinds of hot guys in some of the features..but the actual advertising was missing mostly. I saw two ads-one for Jimmy Choo shoes and another for a male enhancement product.

What about cellphones? tech stuff? Insurance, cars, food and drink-don't gays apply with those? Maybe they are afraid of being attached to 'gay' things after all?


But back to this thread and the original post, they are not doing anything different but switching the race. Smart move if you are representing gay black men, but hardly anything 'groundbreaking'. Just common sense-if you aren't being represented, then represent yourself-but other than that, no different

 

They all are. "Gay", despite it's portrayal in The Media, is still not as accepted as many think, and a LOT of companies big and small will still shy away from any type of association with it.

 

Yeah I could not help but notice the lack of ANY ads. I found two ads out of about six sites.These were not 'sex oriented' sites so they would not have 'sex oriented' ads(even the one for the male enhancement was very coy and not in-your-face explicity). You would think that more progressive(not the insurance) companies would advertise in these 'non-sexual' media outlets.

Seriously I just looked at some more...and no ads. Just spaces for them...but no ads.

I wonder how do Ocky and Nick handle ads here? Do they seek out companies? How does it work?

 

This is a hard copy artsy fashion, photography zine filled with thin, fit, skinny black models that seems to appeal to hipster fem leaning Black gays/queers. What is new or innovative about this? Yes it's "pretty" but nothing I haven't been seeing on black gay websites for years for example... ka-os.blogspot.com

 

@Ockydub ..how do you and Nick go about getting or trying to get advertisers? Is it difficult being that this is a black site and may be considered 'controversial'? I looked at a lot of white sites and their was a dearth of advertising.

Especially considering this is not an R or X rates site? Is it just too small at the moment? I swear I thought I saw some ads on here before....

 

You assumed correctly. Non-porn advertisers will not touch us with a 10 ft pole. We do have Google adsense however which places different types of ads on pages depending on where the viewer has been on the web via cookies. We get a percentage if they click on the ad. We get most of our finances through donations. Otherwise fees for server, domain name, maintenance, plug ins, etc. is out of pocket.

 

Well that fucking sucks. So if Gawd forbid you have a website that does not allow nudity and even sensors language but that dares to be about gay issues then nobody will advertise? Is it the controversial stance part or just the 'gay in any sense of the word'? You don't seem to be alone. I looked at ten different sites like HuffPostqueer, Queerty(they all are going queer apparently) and only saw one non-sexual add for shoes. So gay people who own businesses or what not won't even support their own. SMH.

And I guess it goes for white gays too. There are tons of gays working in all sorts of companies, but how many companies or corporations are actually owned and operated by gays? Seems like we can boycott others but can't manage to support our own websites. Too afraid of getting 'linked' to some controversial post, stance, opinion, etc. *sigh*

*And I am on other websites that are not specifically 'gay' but are more raucous and ribald than this site and have political and religious sections or commentary full of controversial opinions and strife....and they have advertisers.

 

I think the other gay sites have adsense as well. Not sure what you're seeing but just went to Queety and saw ads for Delta and AT&T. I know PornHub also advertises with Out or Advocate, not sure which one. I've see multiple sponsors like Coca-Cola on many white gay mainstream sites.

 

lol..Would forgetting to turn off my adblocker make any difference?

 

LOL you think?

 

I would smack myself, but it is just plain old age. SMH.

 

But at the same time...gays are the ones always talking about how much sex they have, (or used to have). Isn't gay content media just playing into what 75% of gays (even the ones who aren't in the gym) wana see, when it comes to advertising?

 

We live in a superficial world that has told any and everyone that they can be fabulous, unfortunately. IG, much? Look at the fact that ppl eat up Kardashian Jenner, and Amber Rose bs. Todays society has led broke down, basic bytches think they can blow up like them too, and thats why they stay relevant.

My point is, do we blame the advertisers, or do we blame the consumer? I didnt see Michael Sam (average, imo) in any of yalls NFL thirst trap posts...ijs. We can't try and sit here and be mad at ppl for serving
us more of what we eat up!

 

Mike Sam is average in the face but to me his body is fire (when he was at the combine). I haven't seen any real pics with his shirt off though.

 

This is the only shirtless picture of him I've seen.

That's the kind of body I'd hot oil wrestle with but I don't think I'd pass the paper bag test.

 

Well the media is saturated with sex-all media. And no I don't think that is what most gays want to see- that-or at least only that or just that. The internet is full of porn-it is a touches away. I think gay men have become desensitized and demoralized by it all and just expect it. I look at porn and I am so jaded by it all it is sad.

Why won't non-sex advertisers even give gay sites like this a chance? Apparently other gay sites do have the advertising-Ocky confirmed it. Is it that it is a black oriented site, or is it because it has a controversial take on things and has many black (and white) gay enemies?

 

Ok...I do remember this. Yep would not kick him out the bed.