'TOXIC BLACK MASCULINITY' WILL BE ADDRESSED IN 'INSECURE' SEASON 3

My computer is acting up, so I didn't see your post when I updated my status. But you were the first person I thought of when I read her Newsweek interview. I've never seen the show, so I can't judge, but the interview doesn't make me inclined to seek it out. Of course, no one in their right mind endorses toxic behavior of any kind. But as youve stated before, the problem with a lot of feminists isn't TOXIC masculinity as it is masculinity itself. And let's not get started on toxic black female behavior towards gay men, or white feminist hate mongering of trans women (**cough**Joy Reid**cough**cough**Germaine Greer**cough).

I also saw Jay Ellis trying to clap back at brothers who preemptively criticized the show. (*Eyeroll*) Nigga please, your whole career has been nothing but being naked eye candy and side piece roles ("The Game", etc.)

 

@Rico below is a 2-min clip from the show that captures how they attempt to engage blk masculinity/sexuality in nuanced ways. i also thought it was clever that the storyline of the show is based on infidelity and, surprisingly, the person who cheated is the girlfriend, not the boyfriend. while i don't love the show, i do appreciate the clear intention to bring a complex storyline around gender, sexuality and race to the screen.

 

Yeah. I been down with Issa since the youtube days so hopefully she'll be able to define what she's thinks tawksik masklinity is because I'm still trying to get what these folks mean by that.

 

Thanks @ControlledXaos @machoBLKnerd

Like I said, haven’t seen the show and didn’t want to prejudge. Will def check out.

 

August 12th!!!!!

 

So you don't think toxic masculinity is a thing?

 

I think it's something but I am looking for the tangible answer. My issue is that it's seems like almost everything is "toxic" and there's no gray area.
If I'm straight and cat calling some chick on the street and she doesn't respond or responds in a way I don't like and I then turn around and insult her that is definitely toxic.

But the people who are labeling things as toxic or hyper masculine never really have a definition of what it entails.

 

Oh okay, then yes, I completely agree with you. The whole conversation is hard because it turns into the chicken or the egg, which came first? Are women self-selecting for what's considered a strong, masculine man or are men forcing the idea on women? Either way, it's being perpetuated on both ends and all parties involved need to be held accountable for their shit.

 

I've seen both seasons and Issa is too cute. I don't dislike the show but it's hardly revolutionary but it is nice with some interesting sex scenes. Big Titty Tasha!!

Sometimes I think people are just trendy tho because I hear things about the topics and sex scenes with black people being like never done before but I remember when Soul Food aired on Showtime and it centered on it.

Toxic Masculinity huh. These days everyone is so hypersensitive, everythang is toxic when someone does something they don't agree with.

Meh, I'm a stubborn midget and I'm more interested in this show she was planning on doing about a bisexual black man. Now that's something I'd like to watch them Hoover over the heads of the black community.

I had recently been wondering if I should make one of my characters gay and I've been observing some of the toxic Masculinity topics and probably try to slide them in my own works maybe.

Either way, I think I'll hold off on any real judgement of S3 until it airs.

I can expect lots of naked Jay Ellis I bet since this is HBO.

I also thought that scene where the guy nutted in her eye was a bit over the top but eh..it's HBO..