Dopeness #2: “Get Out” and Other “Scary White People” in Race Based Films

By Cypher Avenue | Posted Feb 24 2017 | 5 Comments  


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In this episode, Cypher Avenue Co-Creator Octavius Williams joins Nick to discuss the origins of his Social Justice focus on the site, then they dive into a SPOILER FREE review of “Get Out” (8:30), if the film marks the start of Black Filmmakers no longer making “Slavery & Oppression” films (12:25), how both Black and White audiences may react to the film very differently (23:54), the film being a metaphor for “Respectability Politics” (27:41), Octavius’ own negative difficulties growing up light-skinned in the south (30:30), how this film is a resurgence in race confronting films seen back in the 80s and 90s (35:03), then they give their final thoughts on “Get Out.” (40:30) Enjoy Brehs!









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  1. Rhode | February 27th, 2017

    A film that was totally non-formulaic and unpredictable. It had me laughing one moment and scared as heck the next and totally creeped out on top of all that. Good entertainment for those who like something unique and totally off the chain. Thumbs all the way up!

  2. Rhode | February 27th, 2017

    The Netflix original series Luke Cage shows empowered Black people. The reason I mention this is because your podcast discussed the lack of Black people being able to stick it to the man, so to speak.

  3. jpo
    jpo | March 1st, 2017

    Dopeness #2, great, well-structured and focused with a nice wrap.

  4. alton
    alton | March 1st, 2017

    I'm definitely gonna check this movie out this coming weekend. I've heard so many good reviews.
    Skippin' to the end of the podcast, I think as far as Movies/ Music having been more focused on racism/ oppression when WE were kids, is probably because that was the 80’s and we {at that time} as a people weren’t so far removed from The Civil Rights Movement, literally only about 30yrs removed. So I feel like the issue was stronger on our parents' peer group's minds and came out in the media. As the late 90's/2000’s rolled around, us Gen X'rs and the "newly formed" Millennials didn't really have to deal with nor experience the stuff most of our parents went through, on the same level. Gen X'rs kinda got the a$$ end of it (the really harsh sh!t, at least), And that came through, at least in the music. The movies was a different story since that's when we had all the "Menace***" and "Boyz in tha Hood" type shit. (seems like a disconnect) The late 90's (Bad Boy Era) started driftin' away from the "old message" of sh!t like "The Message", "F#$k The Police", "Self Destruction" etc of the 80's, and focused more on the {supposed} "Wealth & Self Expression"…"Get Money", "Party and Bullshit", "I wish" etc. Nowadays with {most} of the Millennials and the Gen Yr's. they deal with (for the most part) such a watered down version of what past generations dealt with (not at all to undermine the police brutality, murders of {mainly} POC that goes on today) that their music/ media reflects the (F#$kery & Buffonery) of their current environment.

  5. SB3
    SB3 | March 2nd, 2017

    First, I really enjoyed the movie. I didn't have any set expectations going into it, and I ended up really enjoying the ride. Thought the concept was creative as hell, and the comedy was a great cosign and shake up. I definitely recommend ppl getting out there and supporting a bro like Jordan Peele for bringing something fresh, funny and atypical to the game. It was dope. All 5 of the other CA members I was with cosigned.

    Im def one of those ppl who is tired of slavery/civil rights films. Tbh, Im not even mad at them, Im just mad that they are the only films w substantial roles for black ppl, that keep getting 99% of the Hollywood green lights. If for every blk struggle character, we could get a contemporary blk character, I could rock w it. But…the issue w this is the same reason why we can't have a black matrix. Black ppl, flat out, don't financially support black projects enough. Again, white ppl come out in droves to see us (and other ethnic groups) tell stories that they simply can not (first hand) tell themselves. They can, and have, done their own matrix, so yea, thanks but no thanks for the blk version.

    I also agree w the notion of blk culture being absorbed into mainstream culture…to an extent. Blk ppl started sitting over there and smiling as 'tokens' for checks w an extra 0. Hell, now we have ppl crying racism over Oscars, Grammys, and Emmys, but those same ppl who are 'snubbed' won't even show up to the same blk award shows that acknowledged them before said absorption. Ppl were running around acting like Trump started sending blk ppl to Rwanda because Beyonce didn't win the grammy.

    Im getn sleepy and can't remember where else I was going w this, but kudos to Jordan Peele. It was dope. And I appreciated seeing my bae Lakeith (his mama still aint no good for that).

    I also agree that 'lil ____' character was reaching at times, but I said out loud during the opening credits 'who the fuk is going by lil ___ in some damn movie credits?!'

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