Man who threw boiling water on gay couple will spend 40 years in prison

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    Man who threw boiling water on gay couple will spend 40 years in prison

    A jury has convicted an Atlanta truck driver accused of pouring boiling water over two gay men as the couple slept in February.

    The jury deliberated for about 90 minutes Wednesday before finding Martin Blackwell guilty of eight counts of aggravated battery and two counts of aggravated assault, according to the Associated Press.

    Blackwell was sentenced to 40 years in prison.

    The 48-year-old wasn’t charged with a hate crime because Georgia is one of five states that do not have hate crime statutes. An FBI spokesman told Reuters that federal investigators are considering whether to charge Blackwell with a federal hate crime.

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    “I woke up to the most unimaginable pain in my entire life,” Tolbert said, sobbing frequently during his testimony, according to the AP. “I’m wondering why I’m in so much pain. I’m wondering why I’m wet. I don’t understand what’s going on.”

    Then Blackwell allegedly yanked him off the mattress and yelled, “Get out of my house with all that gay,” Tolbert recalled to WSBTV.

    “They were stuck together like two hot dogs … so I poured a little hot water on them and helped them out,” he said to police, according to the incident report. “… They’ll be alright. It was just a little hot water.”

    Blackwell claimed the two men were having sex when he poured water on them. Vickie Gray, a friend of Tolbert’s, told the news station that’s not true; they were asleep after a long day of work — not that the alleged attack would have been justified in any case, she noted.

    GoFundMe page, more than 60 percent of his body was burned, and he had to undergo skin graft surgery to repair damage to his face, neck, back, arms, chest and head.

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    The lack of shame in unbelievable.
     
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    I hope he gets charged with a federal hate crime. Is he the father of one the victims?
     
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    Good for that ass
     
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    The boyfriend of the mother who told him to leave them alone
     
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    He also wasn't even on the lease from my understanding. He was just staying over there.

    He was wrong and I just can't help but think that on some level he was turned on or jealous. The "Imma throw hot water/grease/grits when they vulnerable " is really a chick way to react to something.
     
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    People like this azzhole really get to skate by in life w/o encountering the right people...
     
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    Crickets from the Black mother who was laying up with this man who she let terrorize her son. This didn't start with the pouring boiling water incident.
     
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    C'mon man. Unless this article ( Mother of Gay Man Burned in Boiling Water Attack Speaks Out: WATCH - Towleroad ) is wrong, unless Kim Foster was standing behind Martin Blackwell in court, unless she went out of her way to somehow facilitate this horrific attack, AND you can prove all these things, you need to either retract your last statement or not say anything else about this woman.

    From the linked article,

    "WBS-TV Atlanta reports that Foster says nothing raised a red flag before the attack:

    Foster says they…had a conversation the night before the attack when Blackwell questioned her son’s relationship, but she didn’t think anything of it.

    “I said, ‘That’s not your house. You need to mind your business.’ (And he said,) ‘Well, they laying up there.’ I said, ‘That is not your business. (Anthony) don’t bother you. That boy don’t bother you. This is not your house,’” Foster recalled.

    She says she was shocked when she found out what happened.

    “When I got there are saw my child, I wanted to die,” Foster said. “He’s not human. He got hatred in his heart and God’s gonna deal with him.”

    Added Foster: “I don’t know how somebody could be so hateful. You could be with somebody for a long time and not even know who they are.” "

    Yes, crickets. Crickets I say.
     
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    Thanks for posting this. Until this, I hadn't heard anything from her pov. I will say, that I'd have loved for her to, instead, have told him, 'if you have a problem w MY son, and what he does in MY house, then you can gtfo!
     
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    You right... I will retract the "crickets" statement but not my feelings.

    In three years of dating this man, he showed no red flags nor made ZERO anti-gay statements and just out of the blue one night flipped out? REALLY?

    People (not just thirsty women) deny and ignore red flags and warning signs from the person they're sleeping with all the time for the sake of companionship.

    Life experience (being homosexual and a part of the Black community) along with human behavior AND the fact that homosexuality is always in some way a part of discussions, debates in and out of the mainstream (Gay marriage ruling, Empire, Kim Davis, Presidential Primaries, transgender bathroom issue) tells me this man didn't all of a sudden just decided to flip out.

    Dude came out to his family last year and for a year the ole-man was quiet? Didn't say a word nor give an opinion? Ok...sure. You can believe that but I don't
     
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    I'm just not in a habit of making assumptions. If you want a run-down of what Blackwell did or didn't say, ask his mother. Or the people he hangs around. And the walls, and the ceiling, and the carpet. Like, anyone really, fomites included. But, hey there's at least one quote that's attributable directly to him:

    "Foster says they…had a conversation the night before the attack when Blackwell questioned her son’s relationship, but she didn’t think anything of it.

    “I said, ‘That’s not your house. You need to mind your business.’ (And he said,) ‘Well, they laying up there.’ I said, ‘That is not your business. (Anthony) don’t bother you. That boy don’t bother you. This is not your house,’” Foster recalled.

    She says she was shocked when she found out what happened.

    “When I got there are saw my child, I wanted to die,” Foster said. “He’s not human. He got hatred in his heart and God’s gonna deal with him.”

    The story is 2 gay dudes were attacked and almost murdered by one of their mother's boyfriend. And mom is sad, as most normal humans would be. Maybe she's lying about what she said. Maybe she's not. I just don't think it's fair to shoe-horn this individual tragedy into a larger story on societal problems. Not this tragedy. Can't we just leave these poor kids alone? Can't we just rejoice that the creep's in jail?
     
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    That's what reporters / journalist are for. Not asking follow up or detailed questions means they're not doing a thorough job. Poor reporting leads to more questions and assumptions. To think this violent homophobic man NEVER said anything homophobic within the year after the son came out to his family doesn't make logical sense.

    You can...I choose not to. Tell me which tragedies should we use then?

    Weekly there are stories of boyfriends and ex-boyfriends who wreck havoc in a household they don't belong in and abuse or murder children because a mother allowed them in. When the damage has been done, all media, feminists and gay/queer feminists seem to do is spout rhetoric about 'toxic masculinity'. No one questions the mother's role or responsibility (basically giving them a pass) of not keeping their children and household safe while they're on they're quest of seeking d!ck and companionship.

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    I mean I just find it hard to believe that he just "snapped" one night and never said anything about his thoughts on gays to her. Maybe he didn't. Maybe he was just playing along with it because his goal was to upgrade to her house from wherever he was living before. However, if he didn't say anything to her, it's highly likely he mentioned it to his friends. I'm sure he told one of his friends about her son.
     
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    LOL...he bragging to his friends, "my n@@a she got two bathrooms n sh!t."
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    Another black man gone after making a bad judgment call. His name is Martin Blackwell who was found guilty of eight counts of aggravated battery and two counts of aggravated assault, according to the Associated Press.

    Martin Blackwell wasn't a career criminal, he did not rape or murder someone. All he did was pour hot water on these Gay men who was asleep at the time. So why 40 years?

    One, he is an African American. Two, the white gay groups put pressure on the "JUSTICE" system to put this man away. And three, it fit their agenda to take an honest working man off the streets (Less competition to white workers in his field).

    If you fail to look at the overall picture, you will fail to see the entire picture. There is a war against black heterosexual men. Just look at the lack of these men in the work place.

    White society have become more tolerant of black gay men, because many don't have children and they don't challenge the status quo as their heterosexual counterpart.

    LOOK! They are too busy dressing like women and having sex with each other to even think about political or social activism.

    But this does not excuse what happened to these gay men. They are innocent in all of this. However, I must clarify the bigger picture for my sake and yours.
     
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    1st: White supremacy doesn't give a damn about Black men's sexuality. They are numerous stories of non-hetereosexual Black men (which we have talked about) catching the wrath of an unjust justice system.
    2nd: He didn't pour hot water on anybody. We wash our clothes, hands, hair and bodies in HOT water. He poured boiling water on the two victims scalding and burning their skin. WTF you talking about? Your comment is beyond tone deaf. If this happened to you directly, how much time should the perpetrator get?

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    REALLY? So all these young and old LGBT or Queer identifying Black activists that have been out in the streets and all over social media and on mainstream cable media being loud and demanding change for the last two years were what...just taking a slight break from all the dressing up and sex they're having?
     
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    Community service at a gay community center for the rest of his life. And a percentage of his income for the rest of his life - which would be taken out automatically. If he does not agree to these terms, 10 years max. And when he gets out of the tax payers supportive prison he should still folk over a percentage of his income.
     
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    Are you sh!tting me? He committed a violent crime scaring his victims and you want this muthafuka to get community service and his checked siphoned? No jail time? What if he loses his job or becomes unemployed for a long period of time.

    I promise you your tone deaf ineffective un-compassionate response would be completely different if this was a racist white man that did it to you while calling you a porch monkey house ni@@er? Man GTFOH
     
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    We need to move away from incarcerating people for minor offenses. This was a bad judgment call by the assailant. He wasn't part of some hate organization and he was a working man. I don't care how it is spend. The system is totally useless for these kind of situations. Yes he was wrong. But I would rather see him pay these boys for life than for me to spend my money to incarcerate him. This is nothing to do with you personally.
     
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    I now need to question myself....Because you think pouring boiling water on someone causing horrible burns is a minor offense...can we really even have a conversation?

    The fact that your statement has more compassionate tones for the offender vs those who were offended says enough. This harmless working man who wasn't a part of a hate organization committed a horrible violent crime BASED IN HATE which was not a damn minor offense.

    Being that he was staying in a one bedroom apartment that was not in his name means he is not in a financial place to pay these dudes anything meaningful for the horror they suffered and the large medical bills they have racked up.

    As a person who is outspoken and against white supremacy and a multi-layered unjust justice system steeped in institutionalized racism doesn't cloud my judgment nor compassion just because the perpetrator has Black skin like me.
     
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    Sometimes I need to catch myself...I can get real passionate about some things.

    On a a brighter note...I agree, we do need to stop jailing and imprisoning citizens on MINOR criminal offenses.
     
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    You were right on almost everything else though. We don't really have all the info on what the mother knew or did not know, and I suspect that one or the other of the injured would have said something about her if she did...jmo-expecially since the couple is broken up now and all. Nobody is saying the mother knew anything. Also she could have been in denial about anything serious happening. As was mentioned, he was not a career criminal so she would not have had a documented violent or criminal past to go by.

    One of them could have dies with burns -severe-infections after burns are a bitch. And the physical pain and scarring will last a lifetime-this could easily have been a murder. And he did not give a shit.

    This is NOT on the level of stupid non-violent crimes -especially drug crimes where the crimes, sentences etc. (everything) is stacked against minority citizens-especially blacks. This is a violent hate crime that caused serious permanent injury, pain, and disability-and the perpetrator could not care less about what he did.

    I don't know where some of these new members head are...?


    *Also imo this crime is just as bad if not worse than most rapes- they are both violent attacks on the person's body-but this one was much worse than a typical rape because...

    -it involved two people
    -there will be lasting physical scarring and physical as well as psychological pain and disability.

    And people of all races can get severe sentences for rape-you can get the death penalty for rape in Louisiana even..and again imo this was a crime on par or worse than a typical rape(if there is such a thing for such a horrible crime as rape). So why the outrage?
     
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