HIV Vigilantes: Disclosing Other People's HIV Status Online

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    So a well known popular black male gay blogger/vlogger has disclosed someone's HIV status on the internet. I have a few feelings on this issue.

    I think regardless of what someone does in their personal space, I don't think it is the job of "HIV Vigilantes" to disclose this information, especially when they have a good amount of online followers, for the entire world. However, if someone I knew was dating someone who I knew for a fact had HIV, I would bring it up to that friend personally, not putting whoever they are dating on blast online.

    Many HIV+ people are using the fact that they are "undetectable" as a way to go about saying that they are HIV-. I do not agree with this. I think if you are 'undetectable' just say that. That's not negative. These are different things. And while a person could do this, I don't think that exposing them online as actually positive is helpful.

    The vlogger has also included an unedited photo of the HIV+ person's prescription bottle which includes that person's home address. This is dangerous. Who is to stop an angry mob to going to this person's home and throwing Molotov cocktails in the window, nosy folks who to just drop by and watch the place to see who is coming and going, or worse?

    I just do not think that exposing people online is helpful. At least not in this way. Hell, I could print up label for any drug under the sun with your name on it with a color laser printer, stick it to a bottle, and take photo and claim that YOU are taking whatever drug I want to say that you are on. This also brings into question that if this is in fact said person's pull bottle, how did the vlogger obtain the photo? Rummaging through the trash? Going to someone's medicine cabinet (which by the way, isn't where you want to keep your rx pills anyway)? There's a lot here and with the way people don't vet things, they just run with it without trying to determine if it is actually true or not, sharing the postings on their own social circles and things just take off.

    I don't see the point other than to try to shame people or to come off as 'holier than thou'.
     
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    See that's one of the reasons I never liked Wendy Williams and her kind.
    I'll make jokes in private about about individuals and their lives, like in that Drake/Odell thread but I feel it's wrong to disclose or speculate or make public someone's private lives about something that life altering.
    If it's someone I'm extremely close with and I know something about who they're with and they don't and also depending on the circumstances and individual's receptiveness, is the only way I'm disclosing private information.
    I may even go so far as to bring up a conversation about getting tested to get the ball rolling in their mind.
     
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    It sounds like what they did was despicable. The only time I can see something like disclosing someone else's personal info regarding anything gay related is when they are actively working against gays to limit the rights of gays or demonize gays(for an example look at the avatar of the OP).

    I don't see how 'outing' anyone's HIV status is helping anything. So what if they are HIV+? Unless you know they are using that to put someone else's health status in possible jeopardy-and in that case if you KNOW this to be true then you should be notifying the parties involved-and possibly- the authorities(as in police) as well. There is nothing to be gained from an 'internet blog expose' type of thing-except attention and drama.
     
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    Regarding medicine cabinet searching...

    One time we suspected that an individual was searching the cabinet(no meds in it anyway) and snooping. So we had people over and secretly filled the cabinet with marbles(very difficult to do). Well when he eventually went in there we waited and yes, we heard the roar of marbles pouring out into the vanity sink!lol. He stormed out of the bathroom and right out of the house as we laughed and explained what happened to everyone.

    I had heard about this and decided to actually try it- and it worked. The person was very angry but eventually got over it and could laugh about it later.
     
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    :ufdup::ooh::mjlol::heh:

    See... This is something my ain't shit a$$ would do. Lolol
     
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    Fuck that. My evil ass would put a Tarantula or a snake in there.
     
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    Well the irony here is that this type of thing is exactly why people who have HIV don't want to tell people. It only feeds the beast so to speak. Then when you tag on the "I'm better than people who have hiv" with it, it makes it worse.

    I know plenty of folks who should be happy they didn't pick up "the package" and many, who claim at least, to not have really been on Hoe Mode but still have low body counts but did get the delivery.

    Being HIV- Doesn't make one better than HIV+ people.
     
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    ^^ I saw it on some TV show..some talk show...they were talking about doing something like that regarding 'snooping' and so we tried it. lol. We laughed so damn hard when we heard the marbles going everywhere. He was extremely pissed and did not say a word when he left...just glared at us and everyone. Of course by the time he got out of the bathroom we had explained it all to everyone so when he came out everyone knew and they were also laughing.

    It was almost impossibly hard getting that medicine cabinet loaded with marbles-they talked about it but did not say how to get the marbles all in.

    But he eventually got over it and could laugh about it-fortunately.
     
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    Being HIV- Doesn't make one better than HIV+ people.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Exactly. That's why I don't understand why people walk around like they are better when their background qualifies them for a PhD in Hoeism.

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    ^^ damn I had no idea. Ugh.
     
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    @ControlledXaos When I tell you what you listed above is basically the half of it. I have no idea why would anyone be friends with Walter Hampton. In addition to outing the dude and his HIV status he has pulled Jacob Kahanor (sic) in it. Now this dude has released a 4 part video anthology on YouTube.
     
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    Damn, you is DROPPIN' them names left and right LMAO
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    Its all over black gay social media. Its no secret. Walter Hampton at this moment right now is talking about it on Facebook. Being honest....there are some real Black gay life lessons to be learned from this...but he is not a teacher and contributes to the problem. His messiness adds to the dysfunction.

    I wanted to do a post about it on the main site in some from (not about the players involved but about men and the choices we make and social media) but I'm having some troubles.
     
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    Now I see why so many people have problems with Mr. Walter Lee Hampton Jr. Going to have to check this out and have to look at his big overgrown-on-steroids- turtle-lookin self.
     
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    Oh nah, I know. I just wanted an excuse to use a "drop it" meme LOL!!
     
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    He annoys the shit outta me
     
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    He is gonna end up with a slashed up face again from one of those ubiquitous 'falling glass doors'.
     
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    Yeah I mean it wasn't going to take much to figure who this was about.

    But it really comes off as catty, gay, messy drama that perpetuates commonly belived gay stereotypes.

    I just feel that these guys have platforms. Followings. They are influencers. Why keep mess going, stirring the pot? Y'all tryna get ad revenue that bad? That's why you have established a platform? For this? No.
     
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    I listened to the first 7 minutes of 'part 1' on youtube and I was done. All. that. Drama. And this was just some bullshit intro stuff. Out of job, no place to live, fight with police called, moving out, moving back in, moving in with person you have known for 3 weeks, getting friend to lie for new friend about having a job when new friend is trying to get a 2016 car with no job or income coming in....etc. etc. It all says RUN AWAY!
     
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    ok I went back to youtube and I am halfway through this mess. He is dropping full names of people who are hardly involved in this in damning ways...someone is going to kill that man.

    And he just admitted that after knowing this HIV positive stuff and behavior, it was only when they had a fight about money and a big falling out, that Walter posted the HIV status on Facebook when he was pissed off about the fight and not getting his money or what he wanted. He kept it all secret until he got pissed and then he posted it in anger to get back at the guy-not because of any concern.

    What a damn mess. I think Walter wanted the guy-he is 30, handsome, bodybuilder, etc. and did all that stuff for him and then found out he wasn't going to get what he wanted and got revenge. smh at the whole thing.
     
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    I'm at the end of part 2. It provided some interesting lunch hour entertainment. I admit to getting swept in. But when he said he was trying to figure out what they were.... I knew it had something to do with something not going right as far as potential relationship goes.

    Now if you been in Atlanta all this time, you shouldn't be new to The Game, you don't just go tryna help someone with no job get a car. A 30k car. Plus adding them to your insurance, asking someone else to commit fraud by lying to get the person a loan... Come on now.

    And all that detail he dropped and I still don't know what car it was. That's what I actually wanted to know. Lol And why would you even encourage someone to get a 30k new car who was already financially clueless ? 10k upside down? What kind of interest rate was that? Plus, All you need for Uber is a five seater. There's plenty of those for less than that, new let alone used.
     
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    I'm in the middle of pt. 2 (SMMFH) Sounds to me like he had a secret crush on this David and homeboy was payin' him dust. He was just too interested in David's activities and what David liked. And TM F#KIN I on the d!ck size. {Almost} anyone else I'de be intrigued, but this dude...ewww!!
     
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    Yeah I caught that Humblebrag. Lol
     
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    Remember - it takes two to play in the bedroom. If anyone slept with him on his word that he was not HIV+, they are at fault and fully responsible for any consequences. While he has a moral responsibility to share his status, it is the physical responsibility of the other party to protect themselves if they are HIV- and want to remain HIV-.

    Sleeping with someone today based on their "word" is like taking the word of a vicious pit bull that it won't bite you. You, the partner should be taking the necessary steps to ensure you are not bitten. #my2Cent
     
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    This Walter guy is putting himself, and others in danger with all this name dropping and specific details. Who knows how any of these people will react with him dropping their names and occupations. This is messy to the 100th power. But clearly he does not give a damn. This is worst than revenge porn!

    Do you think he is doing a service to the community as he states in his posts? or, is he tearing the community apart over this subject and how he is handling it?
     
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    After watching Walter's video on the the issue he explains why he did it. I don't agree with is method though. Just because your in your feelings because you tried to help dude and he wronged you and your friends does not mean its right to out them. But at the same time from a public health stand point if some one is f***in half the city and is HIV pos and not telling people but you know; what is a person to do? smh. I mean if I was in the dark I would want to know that information for my health's sake.:yeshrug:
     
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    From what Walter was saying, most of these guys were off an anonymous sexual facebook site where they engaged in sex with 'randoms' they had never met before. So you are having anonymous sex off a facebook sex site with strangers in Atlanta, the gay black HIV capital of the US, and you are going to have penetrative sex without a condom? He made it seem like these guys who were involved were:

    HIV negative themselves -doubt they all were
    Asked about this guy's HIV status and were lied too- I doubt most of them did this too.
    Were somehow 'talked into' not using condoms with this guy by this guy-yeah right.

    Innocent little lambs all of them-these guys hooking up for anonymous sex on a facebook sex site. Yeah, right.
    If they had sex without using a condom they were fools-and if they did it with him they probably also had bareback sex with others. I agree with @yahoo.com about the 'two to tango' thing.

    I would not be surprised if the authorities don't try to 'Tiger Mandingo' this guy now and put all the blame on him so that others can feel better about their bad decisions. That is if somebody does not kill they guy, if the guy does not kill himself, or kill some of them(starting with Walter).

    If you are out fucking you need to use a condom, or use a condom and use PREP. That is just the way it is. Don't do it otherwise-find a guy who will use a condom. The fact that anyone would be willing to go bareback should make you very suspicious to begin with.
     
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    There's definitely some shared responsibility here.

    Walter does say why he did it and how his phone has blown up by the people in dude's past but still, I doubt David was the only person they were screwing raw. People lie about everything. So people need to accept their part in sharing responsibilities here.

    Another thing.... Never, ever, ever, ever in your life believe someone who says they are going to pay back when they get their tax refund.
     
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    I believe 20% of what big bunny Walter was saying.

    Sounds like to me he was attempting to groom/buy the dudes affection and wanted something to play with until he decided to get back with his main dude.

    He knew of dude's status well before he outed him. He did it only after him and dude had a falling out. Didn't he say he found about it last year sometime and was talking about all the dudes David been with after he found out? This is now April 2016. So you knew for months but wasn't that concerned when you were sleeping on the "broke nigga's" couch. Once you moved out all of a sudden you concerned about HIV AIDS and the black gay community.

    This dude is fake as hell. In the first video in the first couple of minutes... he listed 3 "friends" he had a falling out with in a short period of time over mess and drama. Yet everybody else is always the problem. This HIV foolishness is a subplot.
     
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    FYI...just to prove this "I'm trying to help the public" is bullsh!t from Walter...he now posting names and pics of dude's sexual partners. All over Facebook. No...Really
     
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    Sheesh. Again this is all for followhores and youtube ad revenue. Like you said he's sat on this information since late last year and now he wanna be Captain Save A Hoe?
     
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