Sexually Assault

Discussion in 'Mental, Medical and Sexual Health' started by Jdudre, Aug 19, 2016.

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    Why is it so hard for it to be talked about in the black gay community I mean I have read hundreds upon hundreds of articles about dating outside one's race blah blah etc ect.. but never anything about sexual assault and what it can do to somebody's psyche . Why?
     
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    Well, I think that's because sexual assault is a much bigger and devastating deal, than interracial dating. With that said, ppl aren't always so forth coming abt such a topic. Can't be easy for a man to say that he was sexually assaulted by another man..ijs
     
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    True, but the way people talk you would think that is not the case. I mean sexual assault affects us as gay black men in much more devasting ways then let's say if the person is attractive or who that person is attracted to.
    I have hooked up with a few people that have had sexual trauma (not to mention other things) and you can see the pain especially in people of color.
    I mean look at the thread that is going on right now about Nate Parker, Bill Cosby and the actor from the show Atlanta clearly talking about what happen what lead to this is more pressing than i can't get dick/ass
     
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    I agree that it is something that people should talk about more but there's a lot of shame people have about it where they just don't want to talk about their experiences publicly. I think we should respect that.

    Men get battered, men get raped. A lot of young boys are taken advantage of. It definitely happens. I think it's important for those people to feel that they can talk about it without judgement or shame. But if they don't feel comfortable they won't.
     
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    Yes, right here.

    There are some topics that are simply very, very difficult to broach, even with the anonymity that is afforded us online. STIs (including HIV), psychological trauma, depression, childhood and adult physical trauma and abuse, domestic violence, sexual assault and rape, drug abuse and addiction, porn addiction....the list is long. Why? Because these subjects are still stigmatized. I think that it's too bad that we don't talk about sexual assault more, but hey, of course I would say something like that- I'm a caring human who does this for a living. I don't know if people wanna hear any of this from me, though. Having the right messenger is important. That's why the makers of Enbrel have Phil Mickelson talk about psaoritic arthritis, and not some dude in a white coat.

    So the question becomes, how can we improve dialogue? I think talking about something that happened to you can be anxiety-provoking- I'd never force anyone into that. But some people want to talk about it. I think this is a safe space and conversations would be thought provoking.

    @Jdudre you've taken a step and opened up an important topic and I applaud you for that. What else can we do? What else can I do?
     
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    Part of the problem is victim-shaming.If a guy tells everyone a man raped or molested him in his teens,it turns into "Why didn't you say something? You must've liked it."They aren't aware of the fear,or guilt some people feel.Black people are just bad about addressing mental health in general.We have a get over it,man-up attitude too often.

    Then of course,some people aren't aware of their damage,or are in denial.Even without those factors,it's scary to be the one to speak up.Even though i haven't dealt with anything of this magnitude,I'm still likely not to speak on a problem until YEARS later.I think people have to be made to understand reaching out isn't whining,and that we have to embrace those who seek our solace,not judge them.
     
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    I soooo hear you @DreG . Victims get blamed by attackers and sometimes even by people who are 'just trying to help'.

    So I remember The Skinny. Ok. Not the greatest movie around, but I was really affected by the rape scene. The two creeps who raped Sebastian didn't give 2 flying f*cks about him. They slipped him something and then took him to their place, later saying he had been ok with it. Glad Sebastian's friends found him and got him to a hospital.

    Has anyone ever talked to a friend after an attack? What was that like for both of you? Did that friend go to the hospital? Or police? I'm curious.
     
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    Sadly, psychological/emotional trauma is hardly even acknowledged at all among young males. If there are no physical scars, you're not really hurt. No wonder there are so many young men walking around like mental time bombs.
     
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    Sexual assault isn't a typical thread topic for gay or straight folks. The reasons straight folks don't talk about assault are the reasons black gays don't talk about it, then add the extra stigmas of being gay or perceived as gay. Getting sexually assaulted is akin to getting your ass whooped in a fight that no one witnessed, and that you likely didn't provoke. Your pride and morale is shot, apart from physically and emotionally being hurt, and all u wanna do is crawl under a rock. Who you gon tell that u got ur ass whooped? It's too embarrassing cuz your ego is all you got soemtimes. Folks are gon ask why/how it happened, who did it, etc, and again, all u wanna do is not talk about it and go under a rock.

    Being assaulted is never easy to talk about regardless of who you are, but with men it's even tough because of our ego and pride.
     
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    So why don't we create such an environment in my searches online all i found where menimest post, 'white devil' or "what is wrong with him he should just learn to take the dick" we as gay men understand how hard it is for us to be gay but yet we seem to enjoy hurting each other or outright dismissing the ones who need the help if not abusing them ourselves. I remember a few post not on here but around different publication hearing about one person who was in charge of a shelter or gay center who used to fuck the clients their basically abusing them all over again instead of providing a safe space they took it away.
     
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    I've had a few ppl tell me, I usually tell them to go talk to someone but they never do one told me I was trying to change them
     
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    @NikR I don't know, to be honest, I think I've been screaming without screaming for the past few years now other than trying to find places or people to talk which does not always work
     
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    This must have been difficult for you to hear. You absolutely did the right thing- advising the victim to seek additional help. Unfortunately, that's all you can really do. I hope you didn't take it personally- especially seeing that they thought enough to tell you. They didn't have to say a word- but they did. This says something about you.
     
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    Ok. Well, maybe I should post a new thread at some point about this; scenario, how to deal and how to heal. I'll reference you in it.
     
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    While I agree, Cypher Ave has a couple I believe. I would do a search.
     
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    I did actually couldn't find them
     
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    If you post three more threads you will qualify for the Lockerroom-maybe you can post a thread for this (sexual assault/molestation) in there and maybe that might be a place to discuss stuff like this. If people will participate that is.
     
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    True when I get in there I will
     
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    Interesting point.
     
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    I will post in there if anyone in there is interested. Only one time, don't remember if I talked about it on here or not. A cautionary tale of exactly what NOT to do when going to a bar to hookup with someone.

    * and yeah, this is one thing where I never talked much about it after it happened and I talk about a lot of stuff.
     
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