Where Does The 'Pull Up Your Pants' School Of Black Politics Come From?

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  1. OckyDub

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    I don't think it is respectability politics. Sagging is rooted in Prison Culture which was exacerbated by the prison industrial complex. I honestly don't understand why in a culture of hyper-masculinity and overt homophobia why black men sag their pants when the history of sagging it basically rooted in presenting to your fellow prisoners that your ass is available. Things that make me go HMMMMMM,,,,,

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    Not fully true...some inmates had to sag their pants due to belts / shoe laces being taking away. Rap and Hip Hop help make the trend popular among the public to where boys and men who have never been locked up adopted the look.
     
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    So we do agree that sagging originated in prison? There is a solid connection to prison. I will concede that hiphop rap culture produced a fad/trend. Sagging will always have a prison connection to me.
     
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    Yeah I have never heard or seen anything other then it originating from jail/prison.
     
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    I don't understand why any straight man would want...

    A. To bring attention to their butt by sagging, especially now that gays are more visible.

    B. Want one layer, usually thin cotton, of protection between coverage and full exposure.

    C. Wear underwear that shows full crack and gluteal hemispheres separation from the layer in B.

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    I've sag before, but for the sole purpose of showing off my debbies and baiting. I thought that's the reason why everyone does it? No? But now I'm educated and know that slacks has an even better success rate. So maybe it is time to suit up ya'll! :youngsabu:
     
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    We used to sag when I first started high school for no other reason than it was the style at the time. Now that we're older, I don't know any dudes who I grew up with who still do it. Let kids do dumb things. If they choose to do it as adults, that's on them. People only make a big deal out of it to stigmatize young men of color. The whole "pull up your pants and racism will be solved" is bullshit.
     
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    I find sagging kindy tacky. I had a friend that dared me to sag once and I did it just to try and experiment. I always felt that breeze but what was interesting is how guys were watching my butt..I even saw one guy with his phone...so why do str8 men sagg when it brings attention to their buns?

    Well a lot of em like assplay as well probably with girls. I often wonder what goes through a females head when her face is in a man's butt...hope they scratch n sniff first..
    :(

    Anyways, I agree with the person that mentioned slacks. They are presentable & show of your curve or bump or whatever you have. I like "neat" appearance and I like men that have it as well.
     
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    The pull up your pants mantra is respectability politics. Respectability politics might mean well but it has limits to it. Its not really a new idea. A lot of the ideas formed after slavery when organizers and thinkers were trying to figure out how blacks could move forward and be successful. Obama is the epitome of it and tends to mention in his speeches to black audiences. Sagging and Baggy clothes have a long history of being criminalized because poor people of color wore them and people didn't see it as proper attire. The only reason people really wore them is because many could not afford tailors or new clothes so poor kids just made them trendy. It goes all way back to the 1930's zuit suits now we call them Steve Harvey suits lol.
     
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    IMO... That billboard is bs. This guy is blatantly putting down the younger generation for political gain. The fact that his picture is on there seals the deal for me. Its disrespectful, and a lazy way to get his point across. . .

    If he shows people that they can do better, the ones that want to WILL do better. Its not that hard. Find some moms with sons that need help. Give them some responsibilities,and reward them for handling those responsibilities. Put them in some nice clothes and take them to all the community functions he can. Put it on social media, news, etc to boost his campaign.

    Now hes made himself look better AND helped the community at the same time.
     
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    I agree. And unless a female is into men's asses, they aren't the only the ones being advertised to. Guys are looking at your booty, indeed.
     
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    This pull your pants up campaign does come from respectability politics. Respectability politics is as old as the black community in America it's nothing new. If anything the influence of RP got weakened as my generation, (gen X) came of age and hip-hop became mainstream black youth culture nationwide. I'll admit I used to sag my pants back in the day I stopped once I reached my 30s because that's no way for a grown man to carry himself. I'm surprised people are still doing it. Pull your pants up youngins it's not 1996 anymore.
     
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    Agreed. Anybody remember the Kriss-Kross days....
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    But I think we can all agree that if you're going to do it.....Do it right!!!
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    Yeah I agree. It was just some dumb thing that we did. I heard all those same things that people said about how it originated from prison and all that. I knew I was gay then so it did not really affect me in that way. Looking back though, it looks horrible. I can not even believe that I used to do it.
     
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    Man, it looked pretty ridiculous. We used to wear xxl t shirts along with it, so it just looked extra awful. lol. Kids.
     
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    Nooooooooooo! He got a boo boo stain!
     
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