Cypher Avenue Podcast #11 – The Relationship Show: Part Dos

By Cypher Avenue | Posted Feb 12 2014 | 27 Comments  


What up Fellas? We present to you a new episode of the CYPHER AVENUE PODCAST where you’ll hear us give updates, engage in heated topic debates, interviewing interesting homosexual men of color and us verbally adding on to the articles posted on the website.

The episodes will be available in three ways: You can listen to them on the site, watch on YouTube or download a MP3 version to your computer for listening on you commute to work or while you’re at the gym!

In this podcast Ocky Williams and his partner Prince D answer questions submitted by Cypher Avenue followers. These include the subjects of cheating, infidelity, sex, dating and other miscellaneous topics as it pertains to relationships. If you missed the first relationship podcast between Ocky and Prince D, you can check it out here.








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27 Comments Feel Free To Join The Cypher.

  1. InternationalAce
    InternationalAce | February 12th, 2014

    I wanna be on

  2. SB3
    African King | February 12th, 2014

    I was literally thinking about when would this be posted…. FINALLY!!!! SO HAPPY! CHECKING IT OUT NOOOOW!

  3. Jronn
    Jronn | February 12th, 2014

    Yo, i cant tell you how good this was to hear…i applaude you guys and your relationship…an amazing hour of honesty! much love to both you fellas!

    • Ocky Williams | February 14th, 2014

      Thank you Sir and we appreciate the love!

  4. RolandG
    rolandgarros28 | February 12th, 2014

    @Ocky, you finally gave me some insight on a couple of things I’ve been wondering about for years. You answered my question about the transition from dating to partner and I realize that it should almost be a natural transition. I know now in my relationship that, at least, I tried to communicate my intentions of having more but the other party did see me as filler. I really did take notes on this podcast. I wasn’t joking.

    And Prince D reminds me a lot of myself in that he loves his space. I hope that you two can make your relationship work however it works best for the two of you because it’s genuine. Tell Prince D to buy a big house and the two of you can each have your own man caves to have your time alone. LOL

    • Ocky Williams | February 14th, 2014

      LOL…I thought my logic as to “getting a space together” was sound but they looked at me with the side eye…

  5. Dre G | February 12th, 2014

    Ya’ll touched on two great things.The first thing was communication.In most relationships of any kind I’ve observed or experienced,failure to communicate was at least related to every issue.
    Secondly ya’ll said you two can have fun in the most mundane moments.A lot of people think it’s about enjoying the activities more than each other’s company.Overall I love how much fun you guys seem to have after years together.

  6. SB3
    African King | February 12th, 2014

    When you guys answered the question about how the relationship is with your parents, you only spoke about your mothers… what about your relationships with your fathers? Do they know and will they ever know? I mean because you guys are not in your 20s.. you guys are older men and haven’t your fathers been questioning about grandchildren (that’s if they don’t know)?

    Anyway, this was an amazing podcast and thanks for answering so many questions. You guys said the cuss word “MF” about 153 times lol. You guys are so honest and I appreciate it. Many blessings and good vibrations are being sent your way guys. Keep doing your thing. All the best.

    • Ocky Williams | February 12th, 2014

      Neither one of us have our fathers in our lives. MF does that answer your question? HA

      • African King | February 13th, 2014

        Oh ok alright well at least you have support! That’s what’s up MF! lol

  7. soulsinna | February 12th, 2014

    Loved listening to this podcast. If there is anything that I have taken from listening to the two of you engage with one another is that your relationship is yours to nurture and cultivate to the liking of those who are involved within it. There were many things that you two may not have seen eye to eye on, and yet you respect each other’s opinions and do what needs to be done to make the relationship as easy as possible for you both. I love the fact that the two of you explored counseling as a means for you both to bring clarity to behaviors that were harming your relationship. I pray that your relationship continues to evolve into something that you both will want to see through to its completion.

  8. Coon_dalini
    Pensive | February 13th, 2014

    I agree with Ocky 100%! Greater success and contentment in a relationship is based on a DECISON to be in and want a relationship. In my opinion having less to do with necessarily loving who you’re with ,but wanting to maintain a relationship because of the core values you have for YOURSELF. When it’s about you and those core values for YOU,IT FLOWS!

  9. NextLifetime
    nextlifetime | February 13th, 2014

    Don’t have a whole lot to say but I’m just really glad to see you guys are flourishing and are still very much in love with each other. Happy for you guys keep it up.

  10. SB3000 | February 13th, 2014

    Good shit! But I can def relate to Prince D on the living situation. I wouldnt say that Im against co-habbing, but I could def see myself wifed up for years living separately. It’s not traditional, but it sure does allow one to have his space. He’d even have a key, but I’d also have sumwhere to go when that mofo is frying my nerves.

    • achris
      achris | February 13th, 2014

      Interesting…I haven’t listened to the whole thing yet, but that living situation stuff gets tricky (as I have seen with gay and str8 couples). I haven’t been at the level to even consider moving in with someone (that takes time for me personally), but its definitely something I would like to do one day. And you raise an interesting point about living separately but having a key, but does that mean I have to let you know or give warning every time I’m coming over if we have already reached that partner stage (for some reason I think I would still feel the need to do that).

      • SB3000 | February 13th, 2014

        Yea, I agree w @ocky about the courtesy call thing. Not required, but an attempt is nice.

        It was a teacher of mine in hs who said how she’d have the perfect marriage if she and her husband lived separately. It just made sense to me that, while my 17 yr old self had never entertained the thought, it could actually work.

    • Ocky Williams | February 13th, 2014

      Yeah we both have keys to each others houses and cars. We don’t have to let the other know that we coming over; however its just common courtesy. “Hey dude I’m down the street. About to pop over for minute”. The other day they came over at 6am but didn’t call due to not wanting to wake me. I was at the gym anyway.

  11. Ace of hearts | February 13th, 2014

    Great job guys this was really good! I appreciate the wisdom you guys have passed on! Me being younger and wanting a relationship in the future I feel like you MFs on this site have really helped me grow and mature in a way that most people wouldn’t.

    • Ocky Williams | February 14th, 2014

      Aw man…appreciate that feedback.

  12. DrWalker | February 13th, 2014

    Great podcast! The chemistry you two have and your inappropriately appropriate humor is great and provides a realistic insight that the world needs to see/hear more of. Keep it coming!

    • OfficialJLC | February 14th, 2014

      I really enjoyed the chemistry between them! I can only imagine how they are at home, when its someone’s turn to take out the trash lol. I imagine the arguments being passionate too, which is a good thing, I think.

      • Ocky Williams | February 14th, 2014

        Yeah…the arguments are passionate as hell because we are both stubborn knuckle heads but it all works out once we get tired of yelling.

  13. questforknowledge
    quest for knowledge | February 13th, 2014

    This was a great podcast, I really enjoyed it. I don’t know much about being in a relationship so there was so much that I took away from this conversation. One of the things that really hit home for me was when you guys explained that making a commitment to someone is not that complicated either you will or you won’t. So many times I hear from my friends and family how difficult it is to be faithful to their partner. After hearing this for so long I really started thinking that honoring a commitment is a difficult thing to do. When really it’s not that complicated and if anything those who struggle with it simply aren’t relationship material. Thanks so much for doing this podcast much props to the both of you. I will definitely be listening to this podcast again when a relationship comes my way.

  14. Exhibit REY | February 13th, 2014

    I enjoyed this podcast a lot and I liked that you guys touched on the subject of how do you know you’re in a relationship with someone as opposed to still dating them and I agree, it’s one of those things you just know without really having to actually say it (even though some people would actually like for you to say it).

    You and Prince D seem like you’re both friends and partners which is great; nothing but my best wishes to the both of you.

  15. achris
    achris | February 13th, 2014

    Really enjoyed the podcast (everything said was spot on imo). You two seem really in sync with each other and your partner seems to be very level headed @ocky. I wish you guys much success in the future!

  16. OfficialJLC | February 14th, 2014

    You know, I really enjoy these podcasts

  17. WIMSDC
    WIMSDC | February 17th, 2014

    Fantastic podcast, the back and forth was very heartfelt. Felt like I was sitting in the living room with you two. Congratulations on the fifth anni also.

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