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In this podcast, Cypher Avenue founders Ocky Williams & Nick Delmacy dig into the crates to release a composite of “deleted scenes” from old podcasts. This explicit episode is all about GAY SEX. Parental guidance is advised.
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To answer the “Bottoms w/ Big D#$k” question”, for me personally, as an artist it’s just aesthetically pleasing to see a nicely endowed dude. I don’t want to look down and see something that in my mind is “less than”. Maybe I have no place to even answer this since I’m versatile. LOL!
Say what? Because you are an artist you like big johnsons? So what do you think of the Statue of David? And whats “less than”? LOL
My bad for the late response. Thought I had responded via my mobile, but obviously that shit didn’t work out. LOL Anyways, yeah man, as an artist I’m very visual, so I like to have something “nice” to look at on a dude. That’s not so say I’m look for a 10+ “Porn D@#$k”, but something that’s a nice length/girth to body size ratio. Ex. A 6″ “hefty” piece on a dude that’s like 5’4″ is hot, but the same on someone my height (6’2″) just looks kinda ridiculous. LOL I admire the artistry of the Statue of David, as far as the package goes…eh. LOL Call me what yous want, but I like what I like. Some dudes don’t care, some obsess over it, I’m in the middle. I wouldn’t say it’s a deal breaker for me, but if a dude start fuckin up in other areas then that little (no pun intended) shortcoming just make it that much easier for me to break shit off and bounce.
I re-listened to this again…in regards to Porn, I’m a porn addict as well but I’m kinda rigid with what I like to see. To each his own, but transgender porn makes me wretch. I’m not into big ass, Hulk lookin dudes in porn (or real life either, actually), and WEIRD I know, I can’t watch str8 porn with black females in them(anymore). It’s madd stupid sounding, but I have a lot of black female associates and I immediately see THEM when I watch str8 porn containing black women.
Being visual, obviously I like to see “porn d#%k” in pornos, and along with that I’m very “audio inclined”, meaning I like for a muthafuka to make some damn noise. HOWEVER…if a dude moans like a pure chick, its a turn off. On the converse, if there’s all of that “Leather Daddy/Sex Hog” gruntin’ and exaggerated “GRRRRRs” and “ARRRRGGGs” THAT shit is an equal turn off. Just moan like a regular muthafuka, like you enjoyin the shit. LOL I’m into all ethnic porn types (not so much Asian) BUT…I kinda think white(American & Euro)porn can be dumb boring. Plus they smile and laugh TOO fuckin much while they’re fuckin’. I’ve seen it in numerous porn videos and I’ve messed with a white dude (to see if it was true), and they do smile and laugh. It’s not the time for all that, imo. LOL
Yeah it’s all about the aesthetics. For me, I’ve been fortunate to have the experiences of avg to XL[on a nerdy slim white guy at that! 🙂 ] but I do know that “shrimps” exists, in all races. If a dude has a 3 incher on hard–oh no! I mean, do you jack it like you’re holding a cigarette?! It’s got to at least be able to fit in my hand, as I like to touch it and such in the moments of passion. If it’s very little I’ll feel weird like I’m touching a child–eww.
I’m bi, and for me I like the female anatomy on women, and the male anatomy on men thus I don’t find transsexuals arousing. If I feel a very small dick it’ll be like sleeping with a pre-op tranny. I’m sorry if I may have just offended someone, but that’s just me. 🙁 A man with a micro pckg/teeny weenie is getting too close to the woman’s genitalia to me. Also I like guys around my height so 6ft & up. If he’s 1-3 inches hard on a 6ft frame it would look weird and be a slight turn off, but honestly I’d probably still try to get it if he’s attractive and has a nice butt. I just will have to reframe from looking and touching.
Oh, I agree with the SQUATS comment 100%. A flatty/fatty is not what’s up. You want a phatty or at least a firm butt, so tone it up! LOL
3 inches on hard is actually unfortunate. But there’s entire websites and tumblrs dedicated to small ones. I’ve never seen one that small in real life (I’m talking from locker room experience, not just in the act) but the ones I saw that were super small online…. I actually felt sorry for them. Not even being average must be…hard.
I ain’t gonna lie, I’ve seen some cute flat butts but not like pancake flat like that “long ass day” meme. However, take, Tyson Gay for example. He’s got a nice butt however, on his frame, it looks out of place. If you took that same butt and put it on a guy with like 30 pounds more muscle but same frame and height, it would look like it fits that body.
Yeah everything must be relatively proportionate. Tyson Gay has a ghetto booty. LOL Too much or too little of anything isn’t good.
I find the micro-penises “fascina|ting” as a viewer, but it certainly would not work for me in the flesh. I’d like to think that size does not matter, but I have not reached that level of enlightenment just yet.
all I can say is LMAO
Roles : Yes! So tired of people falling into these lanes and can’t get out out of them. If you are just Hooking up, then maybe I can see you just wanting what you want but if you are in a relationship, what does it matter? You are supposed to please your partner and vice versa. People should not be afraid to express what they want to someone they are dating. Reciprocity is what it’s about.
Body types: the Internet has made porn so easy to access now that so many guys expect everyone to look Lol they stepped out of men’s fitness and are killing themselves to look like that when the reality is, most of us don’t look like that, everyone doesn’t want to mount a big penis and so guys should not be so caught up on being average Lol it’s okay to have some fluff, or Abs and a flat but. I think people need to accept their body. If you want to have a men’s fitness body that’s cool too but it should be because you want it for you and not others or their approval.
Porn : have to say black gay porn since the mid 2000s is filled with too many thin guys. White gay porn tends to have more masculine and muscular guys. But there’s more white porn than black/Latin porn so there’s that to consider.
Gay 4 Pay : I’ll just say there’s other avenues for money. =/
I never get “gay 4 pay” guys. Like does it hurt you to say you’re bi, or that you were a little curious and wanted to see what it was like with a man so you took the job because it satisfied a fantasy and paid okay?! It’s stoopid to say you’re 100% straight and only have sex with men for the money. It’s not like they get paid $10,000 per video. It’s more like $1,000-2,500 if that! If you’re totally straight why do something strange for that little bit of change because doing GAY PORN, can have serious ramifications in your personal and professional life. Doesn’t seem worth it if you’re not at least bi. That’s why I like Tiger Tyson. He said in so many words that he’s bi, he did his thing, made that money, and he ultimately fell in love w/ a woman and married her. He owned his truth and kept it movin’.
Exactly!
If you are a porn star who is struggling and need $1000 or so, there’s plenty of other ways to make that without having to be ‘for pay.’ Take Sarge since he was mentioned. Now, that dude could have stripped for the big girls (since they tip well I’ve heard) or even the dudes and made money that way. He didn’t have to have sex….on camera to quench a desire.
GTFOOHWTBS!
People with big heads are supposedly more photogenic than people with average size heads. A lot of actors have large heads and quite a few popular models have supa large heads, especially those who around 5’10 and up.
1. This is the third podcast in a riow where a specific comment I made was referenced. If I can’t defend my comments at least credit me. Sheesh 2. Oral tops disrupt my spirit. 3. I don’t care if your penis is only average Ocky you still got that six pack
Also Ocky…is 50 people a lot? I mean…I thought that was a conservative number
Some people reset the counter after every clear STI/STD test.
I know several people in their 30s who don’t want to go beyond counting on their fingers and toes. I’ve kept my number of people who I’ve actually gone full on all the way with on the edge of early double digits. The s and j number is higher cause. Mainly because I’ve lived in relatively small towns and guys have sex in circles and I don’t trust people when they tell me their status. And I don’t want to run in to someone who I know already ran into. I’ve also had 3 fairly long relationships so there’s that.
Until last fall, I was in a relationship for 6 years. Not dating now since Grindr and Jackd seem to be the go to thing these days but I have already made my mind up that with the ease and affordability of home HIV testing, I’m willing to have two on hand at all times. If things get to that point, if they are not willing for us both to take the test at the same time then they can go right on out the door. I’m not playing with these folks. I’m too old and the every stat I read I always round up 15% at least because everyone doesn’t get tested and again, when you are in a small ~150,000 people area with people who date sleep around like there’s 1,000,000 people here, things travel fast.
My number will never go past 8.
Wait, are you saying you have never messed with more than 8 ppl (not necassarily intercourse)…are are you saying that due to this magical “reset” after STD tests your number will always hover around 8 lol? Just for clarification..
I’m not necessarily “proud” of it, but my intercourse number in 17yrs I can still count on just both hands, and 5 of those were relationships. (yes, I’m a sad, sad case) Now dudes I’ve randomly J/O’d with in odd places around the city, I lost count years ago. LOL I used to kinda turn my nose up at people that had MANY partners, but now I’m just like eh…they’re obviously having a way better time and more fulfilling (no pun intended) life then me. LOL
Lol I see it like this, if someone wants to wait to have sex until they are married that is their right, if someone wants to keep their numbers low for personal, health, religious or whatever reason that is their right, if someone wants to have sex every night that is there right. Many of us base so much of our sexual activity, not on what works for us, but on what others will think when it’s none of their business (and this goes both not just for ppl who may be more sexually active but also for those who may want to take as step away from constant sexual activity). I took quite a long time “off” from intercourse a little whole ago bc it was something I needed to do for me (granted I’m not a sexual novice) and ppl did not “understand” that at all. Do you and let others do them without judgement is what I say. I thoroughly enjoyed the podcast and don’t think it was too explicit at all lol!
Nothing wrong with a low number. I’m all about quality over quantity. There’s things I’d do with someone I’m in a relationship with that I’d never do with someone who’s just a hook up or it’s still early in to the relationship.
I have to have a connection with someone.
I thought I was the only one that used at home HIV test. Usually for bruhs who I am in a relationship with because I also do more things with someone I am in a relationship with.
Well I think if you are going to go full on intercourse with someone, condom or not, they are ‘affordable’ enough to get. Amazon even sells them in 2 packs. BUT that can be expensive if you are a…frequent flier.
Plus, if you are in a relationship and you ‘slip up’ at least you have a little peace of mind.
The path Wellington or whatever the main character was in The Skinny had the idea that I already had in mind with the testing then retesting. It’s not about lack of trust but being safe. I’d rather we BOTH get tested at the same time than for me to get a test without telling you or vice versa.
It’s either that or take the “rich white boy” drug TruVada.
Dear Cypher Ave podcast listeners. Once a podcast is recorded, I hardly ever listen to them and barely remember half of the shit I say. That being said, Nick Lannister dug this out of the vault so I would have to listen to join the conversation. It sounds like I got @hannibal riled up. HA
I aint riled up. I’m just saying. If ya’ll are going to continue to use my comments as a spring board and drag me through the dirt…at least give me a mention so I can defend myself.
Since porn and gay 4 pay were mentioned in the podcast, I have a question along those lines…Does anyone know if porn actor Mike Mann/Fitzgerald Scott is “gay 4 pay”? I assumed he was gay/bi and just made boring videos (maybe due to not being attracted much to his co-star or just bad at sex on camera). But then I saw 2 “raw” videos and he was looking over to the side like he was watching a porno to stay in the mood and he went limpish quite a few times.
Hold on. Imma roll over and ask him.
LOL dear podcast listeners. I promise I will try not to drink/get drunk during any future podcasts. Key word…”try”. I revealed way to much for human consumption. Jeers to Nick Lannister for posting this.
Ironically, these conversations were originally shelved because I was accused of holding back in the discussions…LOL
You were LOL…our off the record conversation…yo ass be off the chain. This shit here…you were tame. It was almost like you were scared your mom was gonna hear you.
I actually had reservations posting this because I thought guys would comment saying this was too explicit…based on these comments the opposite happened. I musta forgot that most gay men have Tumblr Porn as their desktop wallpaper…this podcast was PG rated compared to what their used to…
so what you sayin…
Lmao @ nick lanister lmoa.
And as for who would be on Bill Maher…I feel @Nick is probably the better speaker but @Ocky is the more empassioned speaker…so I would go with Ocky to speak.
See this is why I need to stop drinking during podcasts…smh
Sarge… Straight? Tuh. I seriously doubt that. Lol. I’m a big fan of Sarge, (and I still watch his gay porn videos, often) , and I conclude that there is NO WAY that Sarge is straight. The very thought of that, is laughable. Just watched a video of him and Paris, and Sarge definitely enjoyed it.
Since you guys are revealing so much about yourselves. Can we get a picture of you guys? I know yall are private but cmon. Pleease. Lol
LOL I thought you guys would be even more explicit. But I see where you guys are coming from.
Ha ha! The podcast and the thread of comments thereafter, all fucken hilarious! Y’all made my day.
Great podcast guys! It appears that I have two new porn kindred spirits. Speaking of masculinity in gay porn, I recall DJ Baker’s recent interview with XL on Da Doo Dirty Show. DJ mentioned that he appreciates how XL takes dick in a masculine manner. After watching a couple of XL’s scenes on Dawgpound, I have to agree with his assessment. XL’s a new favorite model of mine.
Keep up the great work. I appreciate what you’re building here.
1. I’m w @ocky …I cant do these anorexic lil black boys in porn. I’ll take white porn or
2. Why did yall bleep out ur fav porn stars? Eventho Im sure Ocky was talkin about the initials A.B. lol
3. Ocky, have ur drink, and fix @nick 1 too cus he sounded sooo nervous, like his church congregation was listening lol
4. Size matters way too much to too many ppl
5. Yall were tame as hell
I mean, it’s like they get these kids right after their 18th birthday. Like, they don’t even look fully grown. And most of them could stand a burger or protein shake and a few more hours in the gym a week.
In many cases that’s exactly what happens, get em fresh out of high school (or still in high school in some cases).
Meant to say, or dawgpnd or papithgz where they at least look like grown men
Even if you don’t like to get penetrated,you still like a man’s body so it’s nice to see,or touch, a big one sometimes.
Ocky is a lot of fun drunk
Nick did his sexy Jay Z voice for us again
Sounds like you both are bisexual to me…there is no real reason a gay man would watch trans/straight porn…and get off to it. It does nothing for me as a gay.
36:01 You’re talking about me as well. I didn’t start ‘experiencing’ until last year, and I’m 27 now, so I’ve miss ALOT in my early 20s. 46:30 YES! You’re right about those ‘types’ who hate tops being penetrated, and I hate that too! And I think I know the pornstar y’all were describing because that sounds like my all-time fav to the T, especially when y’all mentioned his balls lol. I love the sex talk. It’s like I was there in the room while y’all were just talking and I was just sitting there in the cut (which is what I’m like the majority of the time in my life). I loved it.