Back in the late 90’s, one of my favorite Hip Hop groups were the off-kilter crew known as The Pharcyde. Their hits included “Passin’ Me By”, “Runnin” and “Drop”.
Everyone who was also a fan knows that original member Fatlip was booted from the group for many reasons, some of which included excessive drug use, missing tour dates, immaturity and many others. In this rare 2003 interview directed by eccentric filmmaker Spike Jones, heterosexual Fatlip tells the story of how a Transvestite deceived him into thinking that “she” was actually a woman.
At one point Fatlip admits, “A man sucked my dick!” He goes on to add that this man pretending to be a woman changed his life forever by deceiving him.
This is a kinda sad story. One could say, “He should have known” but remember he was a very young man at the time. Also, the Transvestite went out of “her” way to deceive him and others, even admitting that “she” had done it many times before.
Real-Talk Side Discussion: I don’t get Transsexuals, Transgenders, Transvestites and Drag Queens. I don’t. That’s why you will hardly ever see us discussing their “plight” on Cypher Avenue. This is not a discrimination thing. I don’t “hate” any of them. I just don’t get them. And to be honest, some of them kinda creep me out. Especially the really tall ones with the broad shoulders and caked up makeup.
To be honest, their “struggle” is VERY different from mine. True we may all want acceptance, but gender identity is NOT the same struggle as sexual orientation, especially when it comes to men who are perfectly fine with their male gender. Lumping us all in the same pot may be misguided.
While I don’t condone violence, in this case Fatlip had the right to at least throw one blow. This was not the equivalent to a man stiking a woman. This was a man hitting another man for knowingly executing a life-altering deception on another man, a man who was CLEARLY heterosexual.
This is why the whole concept and term for “Trade” needs to be eliminated from the Gay community. No matter how many “signals” you THINK that straight man is giving out, don’t be surprised if you get popped in the mouth for pretending to be something you are not just to get his penis into one of your orifices.
Admittedly, I don’t know what type of person Fatlip is and was at the time of this incident. He could have been a stone-cold homophobe (like the members of A Tribe Called Quest) and had a dose of Karma biting him in the ass. Either way, it makes for an interesting tale.

Nick Delmacy
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Deceiving someone is not cool…period.
Personally for me, I don’t need to get it…meaning (transgenders) but I do feel I need to comprehend it. Transgender individuals have a psychological inner feeling as if they are of the wrong sex, i.e. a male feeling/knowing they are actually female. I don’t feel this way so therefore I can’t fully experience their struggle but we still can show compassion because they are still human beings.
I agree with Ocky. Deception is deception, and that isn’t cool. But neither is condoning violence. And to ‘not get’ something and answer it with violence subscribes to a long history of the violation of ‘others’in many cultures– including gay and bisexual men– because they aren’t understood. … I also wonder just how much a (a reasonably sane)person’s life would be altered by a singular incident such as that? And to what end? … There’s responsibility to be had from all parties in this discussion, and the conjoining message should be respect.
Whoa Whoa Whoa! I never said that Drag Queens and Transvestites in general don’t deserve respect. HOWEVER, if you are in the business of deceiving people (ie: Down Low Men, Cheaters, HIV Positive ppl lying about their status) you lose that right to respect and compassion. Point Blank, Period.
@nick come on dude you were being a lil mean. LMAO…we don’t have time for your patriarchal transphobia. Its views such as yours that hurt our Queer brothers and sisters. Naw jokes aside I get what you were / are saying and you know I know you but you know the internet can and will misinterpret.
A transgender person not disclosing their psychical sex and making someone think they are of their appearance is no bodies business…it becomes “somebodies” business when they have sexual intimacies with a person and don’t disclose it. They in effect have taken away that person’s right to be informed and make a decision if they want to psychical with a person of the same sex. AND yes whether is condoned or not…the offender may catch a ass whippin or worse…death.
AWWWWW….so a man sucked his dick…did his world come to an end? apparently not! He is a perfect candidate for Oprahs “Where are they Now” series. I’d like to hear his uncensored view of the experience. Notice that was not asked or spoken about. At the end of the day my personal view is …the shock of a man did it to him caused his outrage..but when common sense took over , he actually loved the experience. THAT he will not mention to his homies except over a long ass blunt!
I happen to agree with the sentiment about the transgender thing. I just don’t get it. While I think everyone should be free to be who they are without discrimination or violence. It irks me to no end that transgender people get lumped into the same group as gay men with the alphabet soup movement known as “LGBT”. Our issues(gay men) and challenges have little or nothing to do with the transgender issue. Hell I’d even go as far to say that lesbians and bisexual men and women really only relate to our struggle in a very indirect way if at all. Yet we all get lumped into the same catch all freak show category. In the words of Peter Griffin “it really grinds my gears”!
LOL wrong Sir…transsexuals and transgender individuals were some of the first who were arrested right next to gay men at Stonewall which actually gave birth to the modern gay rights movement. Our non-heterosexuality is what lumps us together. I understand your point but legally to the powers that be we are all the same and don’t deserve respect.
Were they really transexuals or just drag queens? I’ll admit I don’t know all the details of the Stonewall riot. If I understand the issue correctly a transexual is someone who feels they were born as the wrong gender and want to swap over to the opposite gender. I see that as being different from someone who is fine with the gender they’re born as but are sexually attracted to the same gender or both genders. I can kinda see how one could lump lebians in with gay men. Since both groups are attracted to the same sex. But I don’t see how one could lump bisexuals in with homosexuals since most of the bisexuals I’ve encountered are perfectly content to reap the benefits of being str8 while having sex with people of the same gender as a side hobby. Aside from not being heterosexual all these groups to me seem to have their own thing going on and only have anything to do with each other for political purposes.
Am I the only one that still gets confused as to the difference between, Transsexual, transgendered, transvestites and drag queens? I actually had someone online tell me a couple of days ago I was being disrespectful to refer to someone as transgender(ed). I guess it’s supposed to be transgender without the ed. SMH @Ocky, I agree that there still has to be a level of respect, even though one can’t understand their struggle. I can’t tell you how many times a straight guy has said to me I just don’t understand why you’re attracted to men. It’s hard to understand something you aren’t/haven’t experienced. But we ask/demand respect from heterosexuals so we have to give it to the group I just named.
By the way, I thought it was so touching that Fatlip gave the dude a ride home even after whopping his ass. You don’t typically see that kind of chivalry these days.
@rolandgarros28 I would say google the terms to get a better understanding or have a general idea.
Since when did I turn into the champion and voice for Trans people on Cypher Avenue?
Looks like I’ll be writing an article about Transsexuals tonight…
Yes and while you’re at it, maybe a short blurb on how these people would like to be addressed would be helpful. And I ain’t joking. LOL
LOL sure you will…Maybe we can do a definitive non-heterosexual homosexual POV of transgenders? oh How about we do a web series?
Wow, what crawled up in your vagina and died today? LOL
LMFAO!!!! fuk you homie. that shit wont funny.
Eff yall Haters. Yall need to accept me for who I am.
Dude looks like he’s on some serious crack. I think he knew it was a dude sucking on his nibblet. But he looks a hot stanky mess so who has any funks to give?
Lol! Dude does look cracked out for real. This is your brain on drugs kids.
When I think of transgendered/transsexual people, 2 things come to mind. First, it’s those individuals who actually are biologically inter-sexed. You know, the hermaphrodites with ambiguous genitalia, and have both reproductive organs? Having both male and female organs these individuals are clearly subject to being confused about or want to be another sex/gender. The next thing I think about is purely psychological. You know how some massive body builders look in the mirror, and see a scrawny little kid? How about the anorexic folks who see an extremely obese person in their reflection, or the plastic surgery addictics who can’t seem to get their face the way they even after numerous procedures? A lot of those people suffer from body dysmorphic disorder. I have always thought that maybe some or most transsexual people may suffer from that disorder as well. It would help explain why they feel trapped in, and/or want to surgically change their bodies. I definitely believe folks should do whatever makes them comfortable.
I wake up in the morning, look in the mirror, and love the package that sits in my boxer briefs. So I can’t even fathom not wanting it, or feeling like it isn’t supposed to be there. Has to be difficult!!!!
oh that video right there will be a clip on our show.. Thanks for that one!! #dirtyClips
you can’t possibly believe he was deceived, lmao! From what I’ve seen they definitely know and use that as an excuse.
also the Trans community didn’t light you all up for all of those “”. Extremely insulting usage “brothers”.
I’m all for the celebration of the masculine the main reason I support you all, but you don’t have to disrespect others 2doso.