Cypher Ave co-founder Nick Delmacy sent me a link to a podcast he wanted me to listen to. This was a podcast featuring three gay men discussing a multitude of pop culture topics. The reason he forwarded me the podcast cast was because Cypher Avenue was mentioned in a segment on the show…Cool! While listening and scrolling through their website, I was caught off guard by their tag line; “When Eight Inches Is Not Enough.” I chuckled and thought to myself, it isn’t?
In the past we have seen penis shots featuring Chad Johnson, Shemar Moore, Shia LeBeouf, Terrence Howard and Chris Brown. In 2014 a host of NSFW pics and links exposed a couple of male celebs including Roy Jones Jr and Benzino of Love & Hip Hop. These pics were either released by jilted ex-girlfriends, mistresses or just because the male celeb wanted some publicity. What followed of course were comments about their, um…members. Regardless if it was the old pics or the new pics, viewing the comments on social media and message boards were pretty much the same. The adverse comments from gay men ranged from “Is that it?” to “I thought it would be bigger.” All the while I’m viewing these same pics and I’m thinking to myself, “These dudes like fine to me. What am I missing?”
What really shocked me were some of comments around the latest NSFW pics of David McIntosh. I’m personally not a huge fan of tattoos because I feel they can distract away from a person’s natural beauty, but that’s just me. They’re not by any means a deal breaker. Nonetheless, I think McIntosh looks fantastic…package and all. Yet there were some (not a lot) of the same comments from gay men that I have seen before expressing disappointment and meh concerning dude’s package.
To add a little bit of TMI (too much information) for context, I’ve been with a wide range of men. All body types, sizes, complexions and penis sizes. Guess what, I had great sexual encounters with them all regardless of their Johnson size. For me (yes I know it’s a personal preference) being over eight inches was not a predetermined requirement. It has me pondering the minor or major obsession when it comes to gay men and penis size? Is one possible cause for this x-rated adult films?
I recently saw the documentary Unhung Hero streaming on Netflix. It’s about a guy who proposed to his girlfriend on national television; she rejects him on the spot to the shock of the audience and viewers. He later found out the reason she refused to marry him is because she stated he had a small penis…Ouch! So this leads him to travel the world seeking out different penis enlargement tactics and techniques.
On one of his trips he stops in Papua New Guinea and meets an indigenous New Guinean who offers to enlarge his penis via injections. When the protagonist inquires when did penis enlargement or injections become popular in New Guinea, the man replies “when we got internet and was able to view porn.” So for generations (possibly thousands of years) a society of men was comfortable with their penis sizes but by seeing larger penises via pornography changed how they now view themselves. For me this blunt and honest revelation was fascinating and is possibly shining a light on a type of dysfunction concerning men and how they view their penises.
I feel its common knowledge that men including gay men are very sexual. Sexual imagery, visualization and fantasy all play a part in our sexuality and what attracts us. So it’s easy to understand the appeal of pornography and the visual appeal of large penises. However like most television shows, Hollywood motion pictures, rap music and video games, it’s all fantasy. I know I may be a gay anomaly but for me penis size is not in my list of top 20 qualifications I look for in a partner. I’m not saying I don’t think about it, I’m saying for me it’s not a major requirement. Nonetheless there may be that large portion of gay men who have included “must have large penis” in the ever growing list of predeterminations and qualifications for their perfect man; even if they themselves don’t measure up. The reality is that most men regardless of race will be average.
Being that many gay men grumble about how hard it is to find dates and find love, why add additional superficial layers and limitations to your prospects?
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I think that anyone who claims that they only get with men who are 8+ inches is probably living in a fantasy world and lying about their size conquest. It doesn’t even add up mathematically or statistically if the average man’s penis sis is just over 5 inches and reduce that number to gay or bisexual men…
It all honestly size isn’t all that important for me.
To answer your question, I believe it’s two things.
1) Stunt Queens… Pulling stunts.
2) Bottoms that believe they’re women and want to join in on the size debate with their homegirls.
3) Some guys just enjoy the visual and the challenge I guess? Granted I think #3 is the minority but… Yeah.
I know I said two points but oh well. Personally speaking, size isn’t that big of a deal to me as a versatile man. A big penis is only good to look at and fondle. After that I’d much rather not be involved. It can be a deal breaker lol.
“A big penis is only good to look at and fondle. After that I’d much rather not be involved”
LMAO Exactly, dude!
Dude, the very first penis I came into contact with when I was around 16, it was like this huge ass girthy 9-10 incher. I just remember blurting out “You know you’re not putting that in me right!?” Ah… to be 16 and virginal again lol.
But yeah, nobody feels like dealing with those monsters.
DAMN! You meet the guy online? How did that happen?
Yup… Met him on the “Black Planet” back in the day… this was like April 05 LOL. Will NEVER forget… lol. That whole session was a disaster in retrospect. Kinda funny to think about now lol. I’m 16, I don’t think I had hit 6’0 yet. Was probably like 5’8-5’10. Dude was like 6’3. 19. Hung like a damn horse and my parents were out of town for a funeral, my older brother supposed to be watching me, but he’s asleep and I’m sneaking through the house with this man who’s dick is big enough to kill me… I digress. lol
POINT IS… Big dick’s are problems and I don’t want them. Average meat ALL. DAMN. DAY.
LOL damn you are something else! Sneaking around the house with a boy at 16?! You are too good. You must have really wanted it BAD! But yeah I think I am down with average too lol. Let’s see when that day actually comes.
I’ve only had the pleasure of physical contact with one dude with a
“Just Wrong” member. Luckily he was a complete bottom. There have been a few others well above average, a few my size, but the majority of dudes I’ve met have been much smaller, not to the point of undesirable, but definitely much smaller than myself.
If that seems to be everybody’s experience… I just really wonder what the big deal is? Now I will say smaller guys who may want to top (especially guys who are on the thicker side) may experience some… difficulties. But as long as you have average meat you’ll find a position that works. That’s the only time size becomes a problem I think.
Size of the wang or size of the guy? lol
But yeah, if your positioning is obstructed due to a beer belly, you may want to start losing a few pounds. That lose weight, gain length thing is true, but within limits or course.
LMAO “if your positioning is obstructed due to a beer belly”
This IMMEDIATELY made me think of Ron Jeremy.
LOL!
Certain sizes can be aesthetically pleasing but I’ve always wondered just how much pleasure someone’s getting out of some of those monsters where that becomes a determining factor in the viability of a partner.
Eh, to each his own, I supposed. I know I like to see a nice sized piece, but my idea of “nice sized” is way different from most other mo’z. I don’t need to see 8+” junk, majority of dudes don’t have that. Porn most likely has a strong bearing on what men and women come to expect from a sexual partner (Not me, personally. I’m realistic) and can set a muhfuka up for failure when they see the reality of the situation. But again, to each his own. I personally don’t know what a muhfuka would do with somethin 10+” other than play around with it, but some people are Champs wit it. LOL
I saw that “UnHung Hero” thing the other day when I was browsing Netflix, but I didn’t bother to watch it. (I think) it’s been scientifically proven that outside of some sort of surgery, penises can’t be enlarged. Whatever you got after you turn 20-22yo, is what you got for the rest of your life, my dude.
Side note, David McIntosh is fly like a muthafuka. Long as his shit is a regular size, I don’t see what the big deal is (no pun intended). But I can only imagine the comments on the Podcast (which by the way, I thought you were gonna post for us to hear. LOL)…
“Uhhh uuuhhhh HUNEY!! Now look at Ms. David! Chyyyyyyyyle thas it?? Uh uhhh HUNEY!! Ms. David can’t do NOTHIN fo’ me with THAT (anything under 11″) D#$K HUNEY!!! I needs me (anything over 11+) HUNEY!!!”
smh That’s a lil exaggerated but I’m sure you’ve overheard those type convos as well.
Great topic! kinda surprised it hasn’t popped up before either here or on the stream.
I really think it’s porn! We have seen some crazy big pieces in porn, and I think that makes ppls expectations unrealistic sometimes. Not until they’ve seen a few real live ones, will they realize what the more realistic average is. I met a guy off of Jackd once, where I saw literally one of the smallest penises in my life!
The only crazy part, is that, for every super hung dude, there’s a super unhung dude. You’d think that would make ppl more realistic. But I think in David McIntosh’s case, there’s this fantasy of him being perfect, with nothing ‘average’ abt him! He has a 10 incher in ppls minds. But the reality is that it gets much smaller than him!
So I just looked up Mr. McIntosh’s nudes… WTF else could anyone possible want outta that man??? To me, that’s large. Clearly I’m microscopic and living in the twilight zone because… man, get the entire fuck.
Now I’ma have to Google him when I get home LMAO
Dude is fine! there is nothing wrong with his size at all.
Ain’t nuttin wrong with Mr. McIntosh. He has done Nicki Minaj and Jennifer Hudson’s videos to my knowledge. He can SERIOUSLY get it. He looks great. Too bad he is married with children though. Lol.
I had to google this because I had no idea who this was or what pictures were being referenced and…I will admit, I gulped. I see nothing negative or disappointing about what he has.
There’s tumblr pages dedicated to dudes with small penises. If at any moment anyone feels inadequate, just look at these guys and you’ll be thankful.
I have never seen/bothered to look at any pages dedicated that because I find it very visual unappealing. But yes my dude, I’m thankful ER’DAY for my size LOL!!!
I stumbled upon this underworld when people were talking about the smallest penis contest in NYC a while back. I was curious.
You are not missing much. Literally. Cocktail sausage. It’s like some of those dudes have the same wang they were born with.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! I come across them randomly on XTUBE/ PornHub/ etc etc. To me, they look like acorns sittin’ atop peaches. To hell wit fukin, how does one enjoy masturbation with that? I, THOROUGHLY, enjoy my “meditation time”, and I couldn’t fathom doin’ it with only my index finger and my thumb. smh. Lemme stop, before we’re get accused of “Dick Shaming”. LMAO!!!
See, I can’t deal with you and this.
lol but, acorn and a peach perfectly describes the one I remember seeing.
No shame. SOMEBODY is lusting after those guys I am sure. lol
Lmao @ dick shaming! Can we please make this a thing!?!? I’m dying right now as I type! Lolol
Wow just sad. will gay men ever learn or mature and be real? And porn is a prime source why most people desire someone with a bigger penis or desire one because they feel there’s is not good enough.
I’ve been told that I’m no longer allowed to talk about penis sizes on this website, lol
You can always talk about your penis Nick. We will just have to deal with it
So I googled “David McIntosh nsfw”. That was easy. Good looking out cause Ian know. And my Facebook THOT chicks clearly don’t because they were drooling all over that dude when that Jhud video dropped.
How can anyone complain about this guy? He is really all around good looking, nice butt, nice junk. What the what?
I am one to belive that many of these gay men who want these 8+ inch things as the minumim are so worn out that they can’t get any sensation out of anything less and any one smaller will run and tell that their sugar walls are less gummi bear and more cotton candy. It doesn’t take a lot of legnth to hit the prostrate right. If you are just trying to conquer to say “I can take it” and wanna be the next goatse, then go right on ahead. Length can be get to be uncomfortable I mean, there’s only so much avaible space. And girth requires some considerable dilation to accomodate some dudes.
Back in the early 2000s, I met this guys who was so big that there was no way I was going to let that thing anywhere near my behind. I mean, dude had to be at least 9 and it was thick. I’m not trying to be split open. I think I could never really solidy our dating much because I was constantly thinking about having to deal with that thing. I am sure someone is very happy with him though. So, for me, too big is deal breaker. I’ve never put requirements on minimum size but there is a limit. There was one guy I was with casually who was really thin though. His girth was similar to a weiner. Not a jumbo hot dog. An Oscar Meyer weiner. I mean that literally, not figuartively.
A larger size can be aestethiclly nice on the right person though. IMO, David McIntosh fits that. Porn star Jordano Santro fits this too. For their bodies, they fit really well. I’d expect a guy like Shaq to have a large penis. He’s a large dude. It would look weird if he had a 4.5 inch peen. Kinda like when you see guys over 6 feet tall with size 9 feet. lol However, there are large frame dudes who don’t even hit 6 inches. It’s just the luck of the genetic lotto.
No matter how small, average, or large you are, no one will say you are too little if you try to run in to them with no lube, I bet that.
I really think that as hard as it is to find another gay man, or as hard as it seems to be, that fits all of the things that matter in having an honest, trusting, caring, loving relationship, to get wrapped up in ding-a-ling size is silly.
As for as Shaq, Karrine “Superhead” Steffans said that he isn’t that big. She thought for a man with a size 34 shoe that he would be much bigger. She was disappointed. Check that info in her first book “Confessions of a Video Vixen”. I had a co-worker significantly older than me lend me the book when I was 12 or 13… yeah I was too damn young to be reading that book lol.
Yeah. The original THOT.
I was just using his frame as a reference. I had no idea what his range was as far peen size but she probably was expecting too much anyway.
So I just Googled this dude….damn……
IKR? He can get it. All of it.
What the hell is IKR? LMAO Im talkin bout D. McIntosh LMAO
“IKR” = I know right
We gotta get you out more. lol
LMAO I can’t with these abbreviations “the kids” are usin’ nowadays
Well being the Cypher Avenue virgin I don’t think I would want some porn star penis. The rectum is only 4 inches in length so try forcing 8″, 9″ or more in there consistently and you’ll screw yourself up (no pun intended). I don’t care for anything too large or too small just based on my own thoughts but let’s see… maybe when I lose my virginity then my thoughts might change? I don’t know.
I thought I was the Cypher Avenue virgin LOL?
lol you’re second. Since Discreet City and the incarnation of this site, everyone knows it is me. At the rate I’m at, you may lose your virginity before me LMAO.
You guys and this virginity thing kill me lol. Makes me feel like I was a terrible child lol. But I can’t wait to hear your opinions on sex once you’ve actual engaged in it.
LOL! yeah you guys will be among the first to know
Lol Oh I can’t wait.
What u said…
@Africanking…Confessions of a future size queen.
hahahahahaha
LMAO!!!! You guys are too much lol
Size matters. It’s a qualification because as a sexual being I know what works for me. I won’t disqualify you for it (because that’s something that you can’t help) but it definitely is a variable in the equation. Idk. To each his own. Do what works for you.
I suppose since everyone’s body is different I can’t assume that since I’m satisfied with an average penis that everyone else should be.
Size does matter. Average is a size. Small is a size.
When people think that average is unacceptable, what does that mean?
There’s nothing wrong with an average dick but for alot of people little dicks simply won’t do. I think it comes down to knowing what will satisfy you and sexual satisfaction is important. It’s just as important as every other part of a fulfilling relationship.
Is average the new small?
Seriously, you’d think that penises online come in two sizes if you let the right people tell it.
Lol. Well average for American men is like 5 inches, so I guess yea. Average is the new small. When I think average I’m really saying “personal average” and I know alot of of 7.5+ men lol.
LOL Average is the new small has me dying.
LMFAO!! This reminds me of back in the days when I used to go on The Chatline here in NYC. EEEEEEEEVERY muthafuka had a 8″+ dick. EEEEEEEEVERY muhfuka in NYC(and NJ) had 8+” LOL!!
People do add an inch are two. Even guys who know they are in the 9 range will add some length.
Digging that ruler into their pubis fat to get eeeevvvvvvvery quarter inch.
LMFAO!!!!! Some muhfukaz I swear must measure from the back of they balls (taint)
I think little is subjective. I’ve had conversations with dudes (mostly black) that completely ignore what the average size of a penis is and make up their own numbers lol. To them the average black man is 8-10 inches.
Lmao. That’s the stereotypical average but in my experience black guys are around 6 – 7 inches which statistically is above “average.”
Average =/= Median
So we have to remember that some men are bringing the average down. Some are bringing it up. So there’s going to be variance.
And there’s whoppers and gherkins across all ethnic groups. Big wangs are not exclusive to Black and Latinos.
Laughing @ gherkins.
I did not know who this person was and I think he is fine just the way he is. People always have something to complain about or they are not happy. Camera makes a lot of stuff look bigger its all fantasy. There are people out there with monsters but honestly what are you going to do with that some females don’t even want that crap.
LOL!!
I’ve seen the nude pics of David McIntosh and as far as penis size goes, he has nothing to be ashamed of and perhaps something “to write home about.”
It is clear that sexual relations are much influenced by porn. When I was young, black men never ate pussy, but twenty years or less later, they were bragging about how much they liked to eat pussy and how well they eat pussy. Think of eating ass. That’s also influenced by porn as is shooting cum on the face, ass, stomach or elsewhere. Guys want to have big dicks because that’s what they see porn stars have in porn. Guy want to have sex with big dick guys to a large degree because that’s what they see in porn.
In porn, due to camera cutting and overnight shoots, a scene may last 30 minutes or more. Yet, many men have difficulty lasting 5 or 10 minutes so such men are often seen to be inadequate. In porn, the sex partners sex in 256 different positions but for some men, 2 positions is a stretch. Is porn spoiling sex?
Porn giveth and porn taketh away.
So I was at work and saw this topic pop-up in my e-mail and my first thought was,”Okay, very interesting.” Second thought was,” I will not be getting caught at work reading and commenting on big dicks.” Anyway, being a person that’s been into foreplay since my sexual awakening and just recently started really having to deal with this gargantuan issue…I don’t get it. I understand the beauty of large piece. It’s very pleasing to look at, however in no way do I see a dick that’s above average and think,”Oh, where’s the rest of it?” Most of the peens I’ve seen have been average overall and that is what I’d prefer. Practically, it wouldn’t make sense for me personally to be with someone that was big simply because I’m horny a good portion of the day and with an average member I can have it when I want. With a huge dick sir, you will barely be getting any and I unfortunately would eventually betray you with a man that has a gherkin sized dick. That would probably bruise the ego a bit, I’d think. I’ve only seen one penis that I had me in complete shock, awe and disgust. Let’s just say it was a little longer than a Comcast remote and just as thick. If I had tried that I would’ve needed a hoveround scooter and quite possibly a new ass. Any man that wants to strictly be with an above average penis attached to a below-average to an average man, more power to ya. You can fight with the hordes of dudes vying for the chance to be plunged. I will be perfectly happy with the average (hopefully) dick dude I chose in a line-up.
I’m waiting for someone on here that’s 9+ to comment on the trials and tribulations of being above-average. “I can’t even have a conversation with someone with them looking me in my eyes. They just stare at my dick.” I guess it’s kind of like women and their tits.
My soul wants to respond to this but I’ll just let it ride lol.
Lol the tripod on the cover is too much
I’m tripping on the reverend author though. lol
How Big Is Big?
Completely unrelated. I think he beat.
What… did… I… just… watch.
My mouth was on the floor for the majority of that 2 minute segment lol.
See everybody keeps talking about length like girth doesn’t play a part in that as well. That seems like the bigger… question imo.
“I’m hung like a #2 pencil. Ticonderoga #2 pencil that is.”
That Michael Strahan! H-TOWN REPPIN!!!! Very handsome and graduated from a Houston university.
But yeah I was laughing. Girth is important too though. Who wants a long pencil sized…… you know what?! lol
Women who sleep with Chris Brown do apparently. The picture is out there. I’m not gonna look for it. Google it. lol
LOL I remember when that pic leaked in 2011. I remember when they confronted him on The Breakfast Club about it. SO HILARIOUS.
Lol ah shit you went there. I think it had more to do with him being Chris Brown than his penis. Either that or the girls that were young and didn’t know any better just thought that it being long should be amazing.
I looked at Chris again. Again, there’s nothing to complain about here. I think it was just that people were imagining one thing, based on pictures before where you could see his bulge so in their minds, they were expecting something even bigger.
People’s imaginations and expectations will never be met no matter what.
LMFAO!!! “Well…that’s underwhelming”
Just like some people are color-struck.. some people are penis-struck. They believe the bigger the better. In the end (no pun intended) it is a matter of personal preference. As well, body proportions. A 5 inch penis is going to look huge on a 5′ man versus a 6’2″ man. Just like a 10 inch penis may look smaller on a 6’2″ man versus a 5′ man- think about it.
Some prefer the feeling of a a longer or thicker or both, penis. Some it does not matter. Yet, some would prefer the smallest possible.
Personally, the whole experience is what is important to me.. touching, kissing, eating, sucking..and ..well, you know. I don’t even bother measuring myself.. and I haven’t had any complaints yet when topping.
I am not into size. Plus I can comfortabley fit an entire smaller penis in my mouth and be much more effective. I will say that if someone comes to me with a larger penis and wants some of this, I would have to say, “I’m just not man enough to handle all of that”.
Not trying to be in a lot of pain. Not trying to wear a diaper the rest of my life. Just trying to get pleasure.
Funny thing about penis size, not only do guys tend to exaggerate their own size, but in many cases they also tend to exaggerate the sizes of others as well (possibly without even realizing it, they can see a 6 inch penis up close and swear its 7). There have been a few interesting studies on this, and they all suggest that porn is probably the single biggest factor in why we have a skewed view of what average is. 8 inches might be the average size of tops at RawRods, but it doesn’t come close to reflecting reality.
Full disclosure, I am Size Queen since way back in my early teen years. It really happened unexpectedly. In eighth grade we were required to take swim class. So while changing into our swim trunks, I saw guys I had grown up with completely nude for the first time. Some of the guys sported huge dicks. I was totally mesmerized. They came in all shapes and sizes, but my eyes always gravitated toward the big ones. The imagery stayed in my mind all my life. Back in the day men use to wear close fitting pants and there was a lot of “printing” through those trousers. I am always checking out the crouch area of males. Presently, it (crouch gazing), is not as rewarding as it once was due to the baggy, saggy look. But in the shower room…
I don’t know who Mcintosh is suposed to be,but he has improved my weekend.
He supposed to be coming to America so that we can get gay marriedt.
That’s what he ‘sposed to be doing.
As long as you get him to keep leaking photos, it’s a win for all of us.
I say that one’s confidence is the actual penis size. Ignore all those porno sites and pictures you see on the web. Your dick is right for you, and a dick is a dick, is a dick is a dick. You’ve seen one, you’ve seen ’em all. They all just come in different shapes and sizes, and if you should run into someone who is very particular when it comes to jank selection, you already know what’s up. For me, size doesn’t matter on my end.
And if I should have a preference, average is mighty fine.
I don’t get the whole size queenery because there are particulars about curvature and length, girth etc that might not strike their fancy. I used to think mine was small, but I simply say now: It’s big enough for the job
I think that we need to get over this and just thing about more important things like employment protections in places that don’t have them but have marriage and things that really impact on our lives on a daily basis
There’s more to a man than his mansize or footsize
I hear what you are saying, but for me it is a preference. I am very intrigued by men with big dicks. Some straight men like women with big boobs,legs, butts,etc. So it is with some gay guys. PREFERENCE. Having said that, I like guys with hefty endowments and if they should have big pretty feet, I consider that a bonus.
“…with hefty endowments” LOL This made me chuckle.
Yeah I immediately thought of garbage bags.
LMAO! Not me, my friend. I immediately thought of a slab of sirloin and two coconuts in a wet paper bag. LOL!!!
I was thinking elephant trunk.
Lol when I was in college, there was a dude they used to call Elephant Booty because that’s how big you needed to be for him to feel anything. No more ‘snap back’ back there. lol
Dreadful
Hot dog in a hallway.